OnyxStar wrote:
I think both are correct actually. From what all I have read fat requires very minimal energy to digest, then next I think are carbs at around 4, and after that protein comes about 8 and fiber (if it even gets digested as you have soluble and insoluble)
Lately, I have paid attention to combinations. I noticed I did start gaining weight when I would eat consume fat with carbs (sugar or starch). Then I found some different studies online. One in particular had three groups of rats. One fed all carbs (sugar form), one fat, and one a combination of both. All three did gain, but over the course of a few weeks, the metabolism adjusted to the intake of the fat and carb group. The combo group however did not adjust and they gained the most while brain chemistry changed to prefer those foods over traditional fare.--- who wouldnt prefer something that tastes good over something bland? Lol

Anyway, Im havent researched what would be the optimal ratio for gaining. Perhaps it just depends. I think fat is very effective in reaching that 3500 cal excess to make a pound, its much easier to do that with say, cream, (800 cals a cup) versus something like potatoes just because of the bulk then again fat alone has a tendency to satiate. It does get tricky also because carbs (especially refined carbs) trigger a release of insulin which then decides if the glucose goes to fat cells or muscle (sorry if I missed sone steps lol) - hence why the low carb craze actually worked ( just made me feel like crap).... Thank goodness those days are over -insulin triggering hunger also explains why time and time again, diet soda drinkers, or any artificial sweetener consumers, usually end up gaining. Studies say that once we start to consume a sweet calorie deficient treat, it sends a signal for the body to produce insulin, which again, starts trying to convert stuff to fat-and increases hunger.

But yeah, carb + fat seem to be the way to go (for me at least) i usually try to combine both in each meal. It seems to be working. Then again, as stated above, nutrition changes like the weather.

Yep, I love science ... At least when it comes to gaining

weighting4u wrote:
I guess part of my fantasy involves someone wanting to get me back in shape, like a trainer. And part of it is someone who wants to make me fat and lazy. That's why the idea of gaining and then losing with a partner appeals to me. Challenging ourselves to let ourselves go for a few months and then trying to lose all the weight so we can do it all again. I think the transformation from fit to overweight is really exciting to see.

OnyxStar wrote:
Thats cool! I dont think gaining for others is bad, if you enjoy it too. That just makes it even more fun! So when you told him, did you have any idea he could be into it, or did he just like it so much that he ended up wanting more?