FAMGM:
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting sick of seeing AI images of fat people?

I’ve enjoyed a few when I first saw them, because it’s fun to imagine an actual human having those proportions, but my objections are:

(1) from the point ot view of feedist discourse: it’s getting really repetitive, it’s already unoriginal, and some forums are just awash with it like it’s actually worth something.

(2) from the point of view of feedist culture: I can see that some feedists, who’ve discovered a love for their shape after years of feeling inadequate, are going to feel that even as feedes/gainers/bb-whatevers that they’ll never attain the unrealistic proportions of AI;

(3) purely aesthetically: it ignores the subtle things that can be appreciated in a fat body, like the way overhang just starts at the hip, in a softly forming bulge that spills over itself, in favour of overt disproportion.

LoraDayton:
Thank you especially for #2. As a non-gaining feedee, I am constantly reminded how my body isn't good enough by both feedists and vanilla people. I'm too fat or not fat enough. Of course as someone who also adores FA/feedist and inflation/expansion artwork, of course there are things I like to see visualized that simply can't happen IRL. But especially the traditional portrait model style of AI images that can easily be done IRL, yeah, those bother me big time.

But more importantly, AI "art" is theft, pure and simple. There is no ethical application of AI "art" if you are not the original artist regenerating/revisualizing your own work. Die mad about it, my mind will never be changed on this. There are practical applications for AI in other mediums, but art and writing ain't it.

I have used some AI generators for visualizing ideas for reference (eg having something to look at so I can write and describe it) but only when I couldn't find another reference image. And I would never pass it off as "art" I created.

X_Larsson:
Why is #2 such big a problem with AI? Both morphing and certain drawing techniques can yield quite convincing results.
Same goes for other kinds of industrialized production, where coexisting products do not compete. See my above examples in the earlier post. We have still have manually produced products that we could buy a century ago. Clothes, furniture, floor rugs and oriental mats, cuttlery, garden items, food, toys, sport goods etc.

And why is it theft? If I "order" a generic, realistic pucture of a horse in a meadow, who did not get paid? I could take a photo myself.
On the other hand, creating and publishing pictures with ie landmarks, people or buildings, then someone could have sold that pic.

BigBallBellyGirl:
I'm currently in the process of finding my true size and restocking my wardrobe for winter. I'm at my highest weight ever (420 - 430). I actively gained for much of this year, and though I'm not doing so now, I'm 135-145 pounds heavier than I was last Thanksgiving, and 50-60 pounds heavier than my previous highest weight. I struggle with clothes a LOT because I'm VERY big around the midsection. I'm having to stick with some warm basics from custom retailers. I can't find a winter coat though, and it does get chilly in Pennsylvania. Open to recommendations from fellow supersized folks.

X_Larsson:
The thing is, that right now, AI has usable and effective ways of processing illumination, skin texture, human skin tones, outlines typical structures if object s common around us, but it does not undesrstand context. Proportions AND details get distorted or misconfigured.

Then the whole creation is spoiled. Many (most?) of the AI pictures that I have seen, and that contain humans, have some sort of eerie feeling of "wrong" about them.
I could write more here, but I will refrain from it.

Letters And Numbers:
Well, it’s new and evolving fast and the barrier to entry is super low (none of those are bad things. Democratizing self expression is a great thing), so we end up seeing a LOT of bad art made with it. The better stuff - made with newer, more expensive software, by more sophisticated users - doesn’t have the messed up hands and uncanny valley stuff. You can still ask the question of whether it’s art or not. I don’t have that answer.

Another part of the AI problem is how easy it is to share mistakes. A traditional artist who messes up the proportions on a figure or fucks up the hands might not share that one. Some artists are self conscious about sharing any of their work. The stakes with AI are low.

Photoshop came out 30 years ago and it’s still controversial (sometimes for good reason, but as more of a stand-in for fights about beauty standards. It’s not photoshop’s fault that pictures get airbrushed).

FAMGM:
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting sick of seeing AI images of fat people?

I’ve enjoyed a few when I first saw them, because it’s fun to imagine an actual human having those proportions, but my objections are:

(1) from the point ot view of feedist discourse: it’s getting really repetitive, it’s already unoriginal, and some forums are just awash with it like it’s actually worth something.

(2) from the point of view of feedist culture: I can see that some feedists, who’ve discovered a love for their shape after years of feeling inadequate, are going to feel that even as feedes/gainers/bb-whatevers that they’ll never attain the unrealistic proportions of AI;

(3) purely aesthetically: it ignores the subtle things that can be appreciated in a fat body, like the way overhang just starts at the hip, in a softly forming bulge that spills over itself, in favour of overt disproportion.

RobbyP:
"Results showed that the sympathetic nervous system and the immune system can be voluntarily influenced. This could be due to the anti-inflammatory effect produced by the techniques."

Bigdoug:
That’s why I personally don’t think of it as a fetish. Being fat (yourself and/or your partner) doesn’t just happen when you’re sexually interacting. People are fat 24/7, people eat every day, not just when they are sexually aroused. So, unlike most other fetishes, this is a lifestyle choice affecting many parts of your everyday life outside of your sex life.

Munchies:
Lmao!!!!

Only way this would work is if there were a form to fill out for the initial post and then you allow free form responses.


LoraDayton:
Like profiles? haaaaaa

Jaakkotamminen:
Hi, today I tried chugging cream and It wasen't that bad! I drinkied about 1000 calories of it, Im planning to do so for one week among normal eating. How fast I will see a diffrence? Is here someone more familiar with cream?

2seatsalways:
Really wished this lasted more than a week. It was promising but we never see any new posts following this formula. Is this something that will be enforced? Posts deleted without this criteria?

RobbyP:
None of what I've written or typed is medical advice.

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Article summary > It seems that Wim Hof method breathing allows conscious control of one's immune system, promotes antiinflammation, reduces anxiety and creates neurotransmittors in one's brain. It requires only the ability to breathe and relax.

Paraphrased additional safety precaution from Wim Hof > It's safest to do so laying or sitting down where you won't get hurt or drown from falling over.

Personal experiences summarized > The beginner's guided breathing video- doing so as instructed has always gone fine without incident since starting three years ago. Another guided breathing video titled "Breathe Along with Wim Hof"- this is a more advanced breath exercise. When trying to do it for the third time in a row without even a minute between the exercise, I have sometimes fallen unconscious for ten seconds.

Cold shower experince summarized > Been doing so for 5 years, most often for the past year. it's all about breath control, deep and steady, to make it go well. Singing is ok. I stop if and when shivering starts. Apparently they lower cortisol levels in the brain- there's at least one article saying so. At the start, when breathing as described, there is a sensation of some kind of fluid going out of my brain and down my spine, followed by a sense of ease and relaxation.