Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.
VladGhostal:
Also, right there. In making it an empowering statement, you are casting anyone thin into the dustbin
Unity. Strive for unity. Ain't it great what the human stomach can do in general? like fella ive tortured the poor thing.
Yeah we were ***es, back when humans were ***es. Like, were getting there. Short gals need some boosting next imo. Gal at my old work, best boss ever. Just fun and good at managing. She had so much trouble sometimes getting everyone a bit :-| srs faced. Miss ya Katy! Crazy a**
If we are truly the progressive ones, the morally correct ones in this lifestyle, we should have no trouble taking the high road on all this imo
Also, right there. In making it an empowering statement, you are casting anyone thin into the dustbin
Unity. Strive for unity. Ain't it great what the human stomach can do in general? like fella ive tortured the poor thing.
Yeah we were ***es, back when humans were ***es. Like, were getting there. Short gals need some boosting next imo. Gal at my old work, best boss ever. Just fun and good at managing. She had so much trouble sometimes getting everyone a bit :-| srs faced. Miss ya Katy! Crazy a**
If we are truly the progressive ones, the morally correct ones in this lifestyle, we should have no trouble taking the high road on all this imo
If you think that empowering a marginalized group comes at the cost of another group, then you are not as progressive as you think you are.
Fun fact, buddy. I'm not fat. I've never been fat. I've been underweight for most of my life before becoming muscular. Fat people loving themselves and feeling empowered does not strip me of anything. If anything, it improves my life. Because when we uplift marginalized people, we as a society are better off.
Would you say that about racial minorities? Women? LBTQIA+? People with disabilities?
If you would, you are not a progressive person.
Two people are in the middle of a deep pool. One can swim, but the other can't. Would you help them out of the pool the same way? Or would you do it differently? If you really want unity, you'd meet people where they are.
2 years
Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.
VladGhostal:
"Fat - especially fat bellies - are stigmatized. "
Is that like a rule? Like heres physics, and here's a tribalistic us vs them mindset that does nothing but create an "other" instead of....just knowing skinny=desirable was contextual?
Like get out of the West, have you seen a Samoan? Lol
. Many places aren't as uptight as the ones with a 17th Century fire and brimstone Protestantism upbringing.
Sumo? Venus?
Trust me, it may not be pretty, but the world ain't as against ya as you think breathe easy
"Fat - especially fat bellies - are stigmatized. "
Is that like a rule? Like heres physics, and here's a tribalistic us vs them mindset that does nothing but create an "other" instead of....just knowing skinny=desirable was contextual?
Like get out of the West, have you seen a Samoan? Lol
. Many places aren't as uptight as the ones with a 17th Century fire and brimstone Protestantism upbringing.Sumo? Venus?
Trust me, it may not be pretty, but the world ain't as against ya as you think
breathe easyI'm a black woman born and raised in the American South. We appreciate thicker bodies, but we also experience discrimination for not achieving Euro-centric standards of beauty. And a lot of these people standards were made with with anti-black racism in mind.
And before you say "well, there are different beauty standards in other places", might I remind you of colonialism and the internet?
I'm flabbergasted you've never heard of fatphobia. Have you never gone outside and talked to people? Have you never heard of fat activism? Fat discrimination? Never knew someone denied medical care because the doctor thought their health issues were due to eating too many Twinkies only for them to have cancer?
Tell me you don't talk to fat people without telling me you don't talk to fat people.
2 years
Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.
Munchies:
Enas:
Please offer your insight! Don't waste your time and energy on responding with completely useless, to the conversation, memes!
Enas:
Please offer your insight! Don't waste your time and energy on responding with completely useless, to the conversation, memes!
I'm just calling a spade a spade.
Beauty is subjective as well as a social construct. But that doesn't mean it's not real.
Fat - especially fat bellies - are stigmatized. Women have it worse, but the general public sees them as disgusting. This leads to a lot of mental health issues that can spill over to physical health issues. On top of that, people perceived as gross and ugly are far more disadvantaged over those perceived as beautiful or even average. There's tons on stories in the forums alone about those denied medical care or encouraged to engage in dangerous, life threatening things all in the name of losing weight. Some have been abused for their soft middles.
So saying "all bellies are beautiful" is more than a platitude. It is a radial statement of reclaiming power and control. To be beautiful is to be valued. And when you know have value, you aren't going to accept the discrimination a lot of people force on you. Because boy howdy do a lot of people internalize fatphobia and think they deserve the abuse they get.
This shouldn't be reality, but it is. And it's like this pretty much everywhere - even within the fat fetish community.
So, once again:
2 years
Bellies. smooth vs. hairy.
MrOverstuffed:
Everyone's belly, no matter the color, gender, shape, size, hairness, blemished, or anything, is valid and beautiful!
That being said, the only one I personally have a preference for both male and female that I can appreciate more on a personal level is a soft smooth belly. Whether it's tight or squishy is irrelevant, though I like it more ball-like than with rolls.
I do not find any bellies ugly, but there are some that I can just vibe with a lot easier than others because they are more my type.
Enas:
Well, i understand that this comes from a good place, but i find bizarre this way of trying to appreciate a belly! Let me explain:
No belly is beautiful. For the same reason nothing in this world is beautiful, or ugly. That's not a property of objects, but an idea in our heads! We think it! It's us, who find things beautiful or ugly! And if there are many (different) opinions, some will find it beautiful, others indifferent, and some will think it's ugly.
My point is that this is neither a way to appreciate people's individuality, because it contradicts itself (by way of assuming that we all have or we all ought to have the same, set way of thinking)
We have to come up with something better than this!
For example things don't owe us to be beautiful. The first step to trully appreciate a belly on the basis of beauty, is to realize it's right to not be beautiful! And it's then that you can appreciate the relationship between the object (in this case the belly) and the person who finds it beautiful!! That's far more radical! Not only it is much more liberating, but it's liberating on more dimensions too! If you want to gain or loose weight, because you have a desire to have a certain body, different to the one you got, it liberates you from hating your body for not being beautiful, because it simply doesn't owe anyone that! But it also doesn't force you into believing that your body is in fact beautiful or ugly, because it's neither! But you have the freedom to like it or dislike it! You can find it beautiful or ugly! Or even be indifferent! Nobody else can force that *you should* find it beautiful, or ugly. But simultaneously they also can have their opinion, and you don't have to view it in the same way!! You can talk about it if you want, that whould be cool if it is done in a productive way, but you could also not, if you don't want to!
Note that this doesn't make harassment acceptable tho, constructive discussion is one thing. Harassment is something different and stupid!
I hope this came out clearly! And im really curious, what do you think? Feel free to criticize what i said!
Everyone's belly, no matter the color, gender, shape, size, hairness, blemished, or anything, is valid and beautiful!
That being said, the only one I personally have a preference for both male and female that I can appreciate more on a personal level is a soft smooth belly. Whether it's tight or squishy is irrelevant, though I like it more ball-like than with rolls.
I do not find any bellies ugly, but there are some that I can just vibe with a lot easier than others because they are more my type.
Enas:
Well, i understand that this comes from a good place, but i find bizarre this way of trying to appreciate a belly! Let me explain:
No belly is beautiful. For the same reason nothing in this world is beautiful, or ugly. That's not a property of objects, but an idea in our heads! We think it! It's us, who find things beautiful or ugly! And if there are many (different) opinions, some will find it beautiful, others indifferent, and some will think it's ugly.
My point is that this is neither a way to appreciate people's individuality, because it contradicts itself (by way of assuming that we all have or we all ought to have the same, set way of thinking)
We have to come up with something better than this!
For example things don't owe us to be beautiful. The first step to trully appreciate a belly on the basis of beauty, is to realize it's right to not be beautiful! And it's then that you can appreciate the relationship between the object (in this case the belly) and the person who finds it beautiful!! That's far more radical! Not only it is much more liberating, but it's liberating on more dimensions too! If you want to gain or loose weight, because you have a desire to have a certain body, different to the one you got, it liberates you from hating your body for not being beautiful, because it simply doesn't owe anyone that! But it also doesn't force you into believing that your body is in fact beautiful or ugly, because it's neither! But you have the freedom to like it or dislike it! You can find it beautiful or ugly! Or even be indifferent! Nobody else can force that *you should* find it beautiful, or ugly. But simultaneously they also can have their opinion, and you don't have to view it in the same way!! You can talk about it if you want, that whould be cool if it is done in a productive way, but you could also not, if you don't want to!
Note that this doesn't make harassment acceptable tho, constructive discussion is one thing. Harassment is something different and stupid!
I hope this came out clearly! And im really curious, what do you think? Feel free to criticize what i said!
2 years
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ForeverFFA:
Thank you for dispelling this misinformation. I recently saw a doctor who tried to convince me that I gave myself hirsutism from choosing to shave. Argh!
Thank you for dispelling this misinformation. I recently saw a doctor who tried to convince me that I gave myself hirsutism from choosing to shave. Argh!
Ma'am, you probably have PCOS or idiopathic hirsutism. Fire your doctor. That doctor is too stupid to breathe.
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