Enas:
Calling them out isn't gonna do much. I'm trying to say that, okay call them out, and then try to actually explain to them why what they're doing is bad as well! Because it harms others! That last bit is the importand one! And im trying to do that! It's not even uncomfortable, but it's very hard to achieve!
But after you've done the first bit, it's a great chance to also try to educate them! Don't let that chance go to waste!
AaronM:
Calling my friends out comes with the fact said friend has just earned my disapproval...you wanna continue to disrespect women/minorities? You will lose me as a friend.
As for others, it's just simple social pressure: people can just feel the disapproval in the tone if nothing else. Others may start to agree with you...or at least ask you what that was all about.
Personally, I don't try to teach people stuff unless they ask (proving they might actually be receptive to a new idea).
It turns out trying to bring up facts & logic as a way to change someone's mind or behavior virtually never works. It all stems from the fact that most will never trust your words as credible over their own sources...and it doesn't matter how right you are either.
So in conclusion, the best you can really manage is to make it hurt...make the misbehaved feel that they might lose something if they continue.
Also, sorry for the self righteous tone, I'm still learning about writing like this. I hope this is still just a discussion, and really I just wanna save you alot of waisted effort if I can.
Its okay! And im really glad you put the effort to write and share your thoughts with us!
And I get your point, it's a really really hard thing to get around that! However im thinking that if i were to only inflict pain, that's more likely than not, to push the other person into an even more extreme mindset, as a reactionary move to defend! Usually that's what happens! Also, what ethics justify inflicting pain to be better than trying to be honest and understanding?
Like, i know that's the good old and tested way of doing things but as i explained, it's not something that works often here in my judgment! And especially that, is something to be taken extra care of because we need everybody to be able to be a decent human being!
In short, trying to punish is the easy way of trying. It's not the effective one! And i get why that's what people do, they don't have much energy left to deal with it! And that's why I've made this thread. To start a conversation of, can we do better?
And you know what? Hell yeah we can! We haven't reached perfection to be unable to improve! And I've said it a couple times now. It whould be hard, for sure! But it's gonna be for the better!
Anyways i hope im also communicating my point clearly (i doubt that i do, by the looks of it)
What do you think?
