The larger side - a rant on the irony and hypocrisy of fetishizing thinness while tabooing fat a

Nok:
How bout this instead?

Still binary, true, but that was kind of the point - not to claim that all women fall into one of those two categories, but to make the point of the dichotomy for the sake of illustrating the illogic of societal distaste with fat. Not sure how to do that elseways.

Anyway, tried to redress the more intense phrasing - coming off as misogynistic myself was furthest from my intention. Inflammatory, certainly, but not towards women, more towards people that design our fashions and even in the largest try to hide fat as if it is a sin, wrapping it in loose cloth to slim and obscure, while the other side of the industry does everything it can to reveal. It's just... weird.

Anyway, so again, I'm sorry to have offended you.

The Larger Side - A Rant on the Irony and Hypocrisy of Fetishizing Thinness while Tabooing Fat Admiration

(Note: This was pure opinion, and reactionary, with a goal halfway between conversation and being pointed.)

Being into fat women isn't a fetish.

Being into thin women is a fetish.

For millions of years, a fat female body has meant fertility, which, let's face it, is the core of sexuality every bit as much as fun is.

A thin female body, on the other hand, has no biological reason to be attractive (I am not trying to be offensive here, I am talking about the biological purpose of physical attraction): it doesn't as prominently display the nutrition necessary to make baby brains, it doesn't feel as good in bed, and, for most thin women, it also kind of sucks to inhabit... except, debatably, for the attention it gets from people that fetishize thinness.

And that's the crux of the problem: two of the most common reasons to strive to be thin are: one, for that, frankly, biologically-illogical attention, and then the only reason for that attention is a novel and deviant modern cultural norm based largely around just how difficult and unnatural it is to be thin; and two, to avoid the negative social attention heaped on anyone that doesn't laud the cult of thinness or has the audacity to actually show in public a body that is larger than borderline anorexic.

It's even become adopted by the medical community itself, despite the dearth of actual evidence. Does excessive visceral abdominal fat have a correlation with some diseases? Yes, yes it does, and that's probably one of the reasons the waist-to-hip ratio is also relevant to instinctual physical attraction to a woman's body.

But there's grosse fallacies imbedded in the medical fear of fat, most prominently: that most fat is not unhealthy; that exercise and healthy foods have far more impact on health than body weight does; and, OF INCREDIBLE IMPORTANCE, that the disease and damage (physical, psychological, social, etc.) caused to individuals and society over the last several decades of cultural bodysize dismorphia and the pursuit (read: fetishization) of female thinness, despite it being neither natural nor healthy, is probably LITERALLY INCALCULABLE (but, certainly, absurdly, obscenely, disgustingly, despicably vast).


I have a background in debate and public speaking, and I studied human biology, psychology, and sociology in college. Your argument is flawed. If you wish to critique the societal concepts of beauty, doing it through a biological lens makes no sense.

Biological attractiveness is about which traits best encourage reproduction. This isn't a static feature. The basic concept of evolution necessitates this fluidity.

In addition, human attractiveness is best understood through sociology and psychology rather than biology. Since humans are very good at transforming our environment to suit our needs, our drive to reproduce is based on other factors (e.g. culture and personal taste).

I find your so-called rant utterly fascinating. You claim that this is a critique of society, but you also clearly indicate a right way and a wrong way to be attractive as a woman. You say things like "A thin female body, on the other hand, has no biological reason to be attractive" and call the desire to be thin "neither natural nor healthy".

By your logic, thin women should either not exist or not be considered attractive by the larger society. This isn't a critique of social beauty so much as it is a long-winded way to body shame. It is both misogynistic and ablest.
2 years

I think i’ve developed an attraction to fat girls

Morbidly A Beast:
I joined up and I knew I had something going on with my own weight but recently I’ve found a significant attraction to fat girls and honestly it’s making me feel things I haven’t in a very long time idk if it’s just exposure to more being here or what


Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. I meantioned this before in another post, but being asexual doesn't mean you don't ever experience sexual arousal. Or maybe you aren't ace at all. Not necessarily straight, but who knows?

There's no shame in exploring. No matter what, I wish you all the best.
2 years

Vent

Khatun:
Oh my, I am so tempted to vent! ('Pointing fingers' is not okay, is it?)


I don't know what you are about to do. But yes, finger pointing is generally not helpful.
2 years

Discord server

Reflection Of Perfection:
God I hope that whole place proverbially burns to the ground. Then the ugly, (slur censored) , sociopaths that gatekeep there would have to find somewhere else to go where they'd have to behave like human beings....which they've never done in their entire lives🤣

Munchies:
Okay, but what if it turns out like the Great Tumblr Exodus of 2018, and they all come over here?

Reflection Of Perfection:
They won't. A lot of them know they wouldn't get away with half the shit they do there. Not to mention FF is much stricter with soliciting and scamming. The "message me for rates, links in bio, no free fat chat kthxbye" crowd wouldn't last 8 seconds and they know it. The rest would see themselves out when they start making demands that the mods will tell them to get lost over.


Fair point.
2 years

Discord server

Reflection Of Perfection:
God I hope that whole place proverbially burns to the ground. Then the ugly, (slur censored) , sociopaths that gatekeep there would have to find somewhere else to go where they'd have to behave like human beings....which they've never done in their entire lives🤣


Okay, but what if it turns out like the Great Tumblr Exodus of 2018, and they all come over here?
2 years

Fattening boyfriend

Munchies:
Sounds like it won't be long before he hits 200 lbs. How big are you hoping he'll become?

Angy523:
I would say 220-230

Munchies:
As things are now, he'll be there by at least summer 2023. Maybe sooner.

Angy523:
If he keeps going like this, I agree. He started to eat more again.
I feel bad about something tho...when he was eating less I wasn't so turned on by him. Our sex life is much better now and I'm afraid that if he decides at some point to lose weight I won't be able to be the same during sex


If that happens, then you find other things about him that turn you on.

Long-term couples experiences varying levels of attraction to each other during the course of a relationship. The ones that keep a good sex life make it a priority to find reasons to be attracted to their partner.
2 years

The larger side - a rant on the irony and hypocrisy of fetishizing thinness while tabooing fat a

Nok:
The Larger Side - A Rant on the Irony and Hypocrisy of Fetishizing Thinness while Tabooing Fat Admiration

Being into fat women isn't a fetish.

Being into thin women is a fetish.

For millions of years, a fat female body has meant fertility, which, let's face it, is the core of sexuality every bit as much as fun is.

A thin female body, on the other hand, has (no offense) no biological reason to be attractive: it doesn't display the nutrition necessary to make baby brains, it doesn't feel good in bed, and, for most thin women, it also kind of sucks to inhabit... except, debatably, for the attention it gets from people that fetishize thinness.

And that's the crux of the problem: the only reasons to strive to be thin are: one, for that, frankly, deviant and nonsensical attention, and then the only reason for that attention is a novel and deviant modern cultural norm based largely around just how difficult and unnatural it is to be thin; and two, to avoid the negative social attention heaped on anyone that doesn't laud the cult of thinness or has the audacity to actually show in public a body that is larger than borderline anorexic.

It's even become adopted by the medical community itself, despite the dearth of actual evidence. Does excessive visceral abdominal fat have a correlation with some diseases? Yes, yes it does, and that's probably one of the reasons the waist-to-hip ratio is also relevant to instinctual physical attraction to a woman's body.

But there's grosse fallacies imbedded in the medical fear of fat, most prominently: that most fat is not unhealthy; that exercise and healthy foods have far more impact on health than body weight does; and, OF INCREDIBLE IMPORTANCE, that the disease and damage (physical, psychological, social, etc.) caused to individuals and society over the last several decades of cultural bodysize dismorphia and the pursuit (read: fetishization) of female thinness, despite it being neither natural nor healthy, is probably LITERALLY INCALCULABLE (but, certainly, absurdly, obscenely, disgustingly, despicably vast).


Wow. The misogyny is off the charts.

So, I am a buff woman. Neither fat nor thin. Which ... kinda puts me outside of your little binary, but maybe that will lend more credence to my words.

Being into fat women or thin women isn't inherently a fetish. But it is possible to have a fetish for either (or both). In fact, if you can think of it, there's a fetish for it. Kinda like Rule 34.

Also, women exist outside of our ability to procreate and provide sexual pleasure for men.

Women have existed in all shapes and sizes since the beginning of humanity. And as cultures evolve and change certain body types come into fashion.

Right now, there exist cultures that glorify thin women as well as fat women. Both come with their own flavors of toxicity, but it all boils down to one thing:

When society tells women "You must look like this", it creates a kind of violence. There's a pressure to achieve and maintain a certain look as well as punishment for those that don't.

Meanwhile, women's bodies are vilified, objectified, and scrutinized with disregard to the women that inhabit these bodies.

Look, man. Like what you like. If you like fat women, you like fat women. You certainly are in the right place for it. But don't be a prick. Idk what you are going through, but that's no excuse as to how you are acting.
2 years

Vent

Grimalkin999:
I’ve had such bad luck in the dating field that I’m starting to lose hope. I recently started talking to a guy who is a feedee and he lives only three hours away so I was happy we met. We called a few times and everything seemed really good at first, he’d say how happy and excited he was to have met me. But now he’s been super distant and leaves me on delivered for hours or even days. He says he’s just super busy which I can understand but I can’t help but think that’s not the reason because the same thing happened before with the last guy I talked to. I don’t know what to do, I don’t want to get attached to him just in case he leaves but I also don’t want to lose something that might be good

Beni:
I kinda feel like the original purpose of this thread is getting lost in this discussion between Munchies and Neyu. I agree with munchies that neyus comment was rude but come on you two can discuss it in private so this thread can actually be used to giving advice to Grimalkin999 and helping her out.


Yeah, that's a fair assessment.

That being said, Grimalkin999 did reach out to me directly and we discussed the situation.
2 years

Vent

Munchies:
I am very curious as to what you think the word "triggered" means? Because it meand you experiences a visceral, emotional response towards something.

Neyu:
Occurrence in response to a stimulus.


Ok, so that is not what that means.

When someone says they are triggered it means one of two things

1. You have PTSD and something causes you to have flashbacks or another emotional response.

2. You feel upset, distressed, or scared by something.

Usually, people mean the second one.

I hope this explains things for you.
2 years

Vent

Munchies:

Then why, pray tell, did you get triggered? Why are her dating issues something that bothers you? If it's really a case of women having the same level of difficulty as men, why did you feel compelled to tell her to sign up for Tinder and wait for the men to come to her?

And Germany is, at the very least, comprable to the rest of the world when it comes to intimate partner violence. At least when it comes to the reported issues:

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/violence-against-women-when-daily-life-becomes-a-nightmare/a-59917129

Now look at the world as a whole

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/violence-against-women-when-daily-life-becomes-a-nightmare/a-59917129

This doesn't take into detail the countless victims who never report the situation.


To be clear, I do not think you are a bad person. I think you are a person who is reckless with his words. I think you have heard things over your life and internalized them without properly analyzing them either. Which I understand. Most people don't do it unless something forces them to confront it either.

Neyu:
Where do you come up with those questions?

Her dating issues don't bother me. And I never said so. It's an unfortunate situation.

''This doesn't take into detail the countless victims who never report the situation.'' (Munchies) Like I said... how present it is. And from victims who don't report it obviously no one knows about.

Okay. The last one you can't know, because you don't know me. I analyze everything over and over again. I think things through many times. And that's stressful.


I am very curious as to what you think the word "triggered" means? Because it meand you experiences a visceral, emotional response towards something.
2 years