Subcutaneous fat
Feedmethicker:
A diet high in fat will promote subcutaneous fat, consuming stuff like heavy cream, cheese, oils, butter and coconut cream will give you that squishy fat.
A diet high in sugar promotes visceral fat (that's why beer/ball bellies are hard and protruding). To limit visceral fat gain avoid processed carbohydrates, alcohol and sugary foods.
I also read somewhere that a high fat diet redistributes body fat, shifting visceral fat to subcutaneous.
A diet high in fat will promote subcutaneous fat, consuming stuff like heavy cream, cheese, oils, butter and coconut cream will give you that squishy fat.
A diet high in sugar promotes visceral fat (that's why beer/ball bellies are hard and protruding). To limit visceral fat gain avoid processed carbohydrates, alcohol and sugary foods.
I also read somewhere that a high fat diet redistributes body fat, shifting visceral fat to subcutaneous.
Visceral fat does not shift to subcutaneous fat. The only way to reduce it is to exercise it off. The good news is that visceral fat burns off before subcutaneous fat will.
Also, if you gain weight, it will increase both your visceral and subcutaneous fat.
Also, while certain kinds of food may promote visceral or subcutaneous, those aren't the only factors. Genetics and hormones also play a factor as well. While you can'tbdo anything about genes, there's a little bit you can do about about the hormone aspect.
Cortisol, the stress hormone, causes visceral fat gains. If you can work on stress management, it will help keep the visceral fat gains in check.
2 years
Dear ladies of ff
FAMGM:
Social structures foster sexism.
Munchies:
Social structures are neutral. They neither encourage nor discourage sexism. You have confused social structures with value systems.
FAMGM:
Eh, no. Social structures at every level across all Western societies foster sexism to varying degrees.
Social structures foster sexism.
Munchies:
Social structures are neutral. They neither encourage nor discourage sexism. You have confused social structures with value systems.
FAMGM:
Eh, no. Social structures at every level across all Western societies foster sexism to varying degrees.
The term "social structure" is so broad that it encompasses everything - even groups actively working against sexism. That's all I'm getting at. While most people refer to social structures on the macro scale, the term also applies to the meso and micro scales. This would, inadvertently, include anti-sexism spaces as well.
The issue isn't social structures so much as it is a complex blend of social values and institutions. The act of having a social structure isn't inherently one thing or another. It is the values imbued within the social structure that makes it sexist.
2 years
Dear ladies of ff
Munchies:
Wow. Okay. So, you have not researched the issue as well as you think you have. And, to be frank, you sound pretty accusatory and angry.
So, I am going to post the laws I'm referring to. And then I'm going to end the conversation here. Because I can see you are not looking to listen and understand. You are looking to be right. And if I continue to engage with you, this thread is going to be locked.
www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695
www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695
www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695
Curiousv:
I wasn't angry about you mentioning those laws, I seriously wanted to know what laws you are referring to. And I know about Roe vs Wade (and that's a complex enough topic where this is indeed not the place to go too deep into), but that was not what I was asking. I was asking about what you referred to as anti-LGBT laws and laws against teaching about black people in history classes.
(and please note that it was you who started personal attacks, and started making assumptions about me without knowing me, and started throwing accusations)
You said early in your response "I've heard your claims in sensationalist media articles" so how else was I supposed to take it?
But, I did post information about the other two things.
2 years
Dear ladies of ff
Munchies:
Mind you, I'm speaking as a cis-het woman. So some rights (such as the massive amount of anti-LGBTQIA+ laws being passed in my country) do not pertain to me.
But of those that do? Anti-abortion laws, laws against protesting, and laws against teaching black history in a meaningful way, for example.
And, again, as a woman of color, there isn't a better time in the past for me. That's not how this works. You are assuming that the present is the best. While I agree that things are better than they were, it's still not good.
Curiousv:
Could you please cite those exact laws you refer to? I've heard your claims in sensationalist media articles, but when I looked up the exact laws... they weren't quite what those activists claimed.
For example, "anti-LGBTQIA+ laws", has some sexual orientation been made illegal by a law again, as they were illegal in the past? Or does the law say that if you have a certain sexual orientation you are not allowed to do X Y? Was there something LGBT people were legally allowed to do and now due to these laws they no longer are?
And even "laws against teaching black history in a meaningful way"? I've never seen any law against teaching the history of black people in the USA, including slavery, the Civil War, the civil rights movement, etc. The only concrete events I've found weren't even laws, they were issues when a teacher taught children to judge each other by the color of each other's skin, teaching racists views like for example whites being born oppressors by their very nature, etc. and then angry parents pressured the school administration to put a stop to that.
So which exact law are you referring to? Unless you'd just point to a general proposition against enticing racial hatred, please tell me which law you mean, maybe I missed it.
Wow. Okay. So, you have not researched the issue as well as you think you have. And, to be frank, you sound pretty accusatory and angry.
So, I am going to post the laws I'm referring to. And then I'm going to end the conversation here. Because I can see you are not looking to listen and understand. You are looking to be right. And if I continue to engage with you, this thread is going to be locked.
www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695
www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695
www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695
2 years
Dear ladies of ff
Enas:
The purpose of the forums is to educate, right? There could be more people seeking to educate, and to do it in an effective way. That will have some result. That's why i wrote this thread in the first place! Regardless, i hope that you'll find what you need, comrade! (:
Munchies:
You are correct that patriarchy isn't the source of all society's ills. However, it's an enormous leap from "Wow, women sure do have a hard time" to "We should abolish the system because it hurts everyone and rebuild it from the ground up."
I don't care if you are into anarchy, but how will that help systematized patriarchy? Because patriarchy has been around far longer than capitalism. Abolishing capitalism would not abolish patriarchy.
As I said before, patriarchy is both an individual and a systemic issue. Tackling one without the other is ineffective.
You are focusing on too much at once, and it's making you directionless. You are also not keeping in mind who your audience is. This is a fetish site. People come here to escape and be horny. While there's always space to discuss treating people as equals, no one wants to discuss politics or economics. Even the numerous posts discussing gender issues will only discuss them in the context of the site and fetish.
So, if you want to have these deep, complex discussions, it would be best to do it on a better platform.
Enas:
I get this! but I'm also saying that in this site there could be a place for people to learn to have, if not empathy, then at least some more basic stuff like respect and patience.
This should be done in a socialist basis, in other words, it's goal must be to be as useful as possible!
I don't think any part of what i just wrote is irrelevant to this site! I
I just wish to see that, because with that other attitude of "everyone is responsible for themselves" we're clearly not making any step at all!
Munchies:
Enas, if you want to make a difference, then you can start by being empathetic towards people. Based on our previous conversations, you struggle to do that. Once you've worked on yourself, then you can turn outwards and talk to other people.
Enas:
How do you arrive to the conclusion that what i struggle id bring empathetic to people?
Seriously, im asking because what i find myself struggling i think, is communication! I hope i dont bother you by asking im just left really confused!
Munchies:
Have you forgotten all of the sexist and racist things you've said to me? The boundaries you've crossed because you don't think they matter? How you've actually said that empathy and respect aren't necessarily important?
Because I haven't.
Enas:
Alright now i get why you think that.
But, for one, you've based that on what i *told* you (and that's obviously where my bad communication might ruin my point)
Also you're propably remember it a bit too blurred. I think empathy is the most importand thing in humans.
And second, that was what? 3 months ago? I've been changing a lot during these last, grinding 3 months!
Edit: i apologize if i sound mad or something, im just trying to make my point clear 😅
The purpose of the forums is to educate, right? There could be more people seeking to educate, and to do it in an effective way. That will have some result. That's why i wrote this thread in the first place! Regardless, i hope that you'll find what you need, comrade! (:
Munchies:
You are correct that patriarchy isn't the source of all society's ills. However, it's an enormous leap from "Wow, women sure do have a hard time" to "We should abolish the system because it hurts everyone and rebuild it from the ground up."
I don't care if you are into anarchy, but how will that help systematized patriarchy? Because patriarchy has been around far longer than capitalism. Abolishing capitalism would not abolish patriarchy.
As I said before, patriarchy is both an individual and a systemic issue. Tackling one without the other is ineffective.
You are focusing on too much at once, and it's making you directionless. You are also not keeping in mind who your audience is. This is a fetish site. People come here to escape and be horny. While there's always space to discuss treating people as equals, no one wants to discuss politics or economics. Even the numerous posts discussing gender issues will only discuss them in the context of the site and fetish.
So, if you want to have these deep, complex discussions, it would be best to do it on a better platform.
Enas:
I get this! but I'm also saying that in this site there could be a place for people to learn to have, if not empathy, then at least some more basic stuff like respect and patience.
This should be done in a socialist basis, in other words, it's goal must be to be as useful as possible!
I don't think any part of what i just wrote is irrelevant to this site! I
I just wish to see that, because with that other attitude of "everyone is responsible for themselves" we're clearly not making any step at all!
Munchies:
Enas, if you want to make a difference, then you can start by being empathetic towards people. Based on our previous conversations, you struggle to do that. Once you've worked on yourself, then you can turn outwards and talk to other people.
Enas:
How do you arrive to the conclusion that what i struggle id bring empathetic to people?
Seriously, im asking because what i find myself struggling i think, is communication! I hope i dont bother you by asking im just left really confused!
Munchies:
Have you forgotten all of the sexist and racist things you've said to me? The boundaries you've crossed because you don't think they matter? How you've actually said that empathy and respect aren't necessarily important?
Because I haven't.
Enas:
Alright now i get why you think that.
But, for one, you've based that on what i *told* you (and that's obviously where my bad communication might ruin my point)
Also you're propably remember it a bit too blurred. I think empathy is the most importand thing in humans.
And second, that was what? 3 months ago? I've been changing a lot during these last, grinding 3 months!
Edit: i apologize if i sound mad or something, im just trying to make my point clear 😅
There's nothing wrong with my memory, Enas.
I'm willing to concede you might have grown in the months since we last spoke. But, based on our interaction today, it is clear to me that you still have some growing left to do.
And this is all I will say on the subject.
2 years
Dear ladies of ff
Munchies:
As a woman of color, I'm not sure I agree with your statement concerning Western societies being the best form of civilization. Especially since, in my country, my rights are being stripped away. I don't want to live somewhere else, but I know that my living situation is not the best.
Curiousv:
Which rights did you previously have that are now being "stripped away"?
And please tell me one other time period or other civilization which you would rather have at your location, instead of the current one.
I never claimed there is nothing to improve. I was only against the idea of demolishing everything and being so conceited as to believe to be able to build a better one.
Mind you, I'm speaking as a cis-het woman. So some rights (such as the massive amount of anti-LGBTQIA+ laws being passed in my country) do not pertain to me.
But of those that do? Anti-abortion laws, laws against protesting, and laws against teaching black history in a meaningful way, for example.
And, again, as a woman of color, there isn't a better time in the past for me. That's not how this works. You are assuming that the present is the best. While I agree that things are better than they were, it's still not good.
2 years
Dear ladies of ff
Enas:
The purpose of the forums is to educate, right? There could be more people seeking to educate, and to do it in an effective way. That will have some result. That's why i wrote this thread in the first place! Regardless, i hope that you'll find what you need, comrade! (:
Munchies:
You are correct that patriarchy isn't the source of all society's ills. However, it's an enormous leap from "Wow, women sure do have a hard time" to "We should abolish the system because it hurts everyone and rebuild it from the ground up."
I don't care if you are into anarchy, but how will that help systematized patriarchy? Because patriarchy has been around far longer than capitalism. Abolishing capitalism would not abolish patriarchy.
As I said before, patriarchy is both an individual and a systemic issue. Tackling one without the other is ineffective.
You are focusing on too much at once, and it's making you directionless. You are also not keeping in mind who your audience is. This is a fetish site. People come here to escape and be horny. While there's always space to discuss treating people as equals, no one wants to discuss politics or economics. Even the numerous posts discussing gender issues will only discuss them in the context of the site and fetish.
So, if you want to have these deep, complex discussions, it would be best to do it on a better platform.
Enas:
I get this! but I'm also saying that in this site there could be a place for people to learn to have, if not empathy, then at least some more basic stuff like respect and patience.
This should be done in a socialist basis, in other words, it's goal must be to be as useful as possible!
I don't think any part of what i just wrote is irrelevant to this site! I
I just wish to see that, because with that other attitude of "everyone is responsible for themselves" we're clearly not making any step at all!
Munchies:
Enas, if you want to make a difference, then you can start by being empathetic towards people. Based on our previous conversations, you struggle to do that. Once you've worked on yourself, then you can turn outwards and talk to other people.
Enas:
How do you arrive to the conclusion that what i struggle id bring empathetic to people?
Seriously, im asking because what i find myself struggling i think, is communication! I hope i dont bother you by asking im just left really confused!
The purpose of the forums is to educate, right? There could be more people seeking to educate, and to do it in an effective way. That will have some result. That's why i wrote this thread in the first place! Regardless, i hope that you'll find what you need, comrade! (:
Munchies:
You are correct that patriarchy isn't the source of all society's ills. However, it's an enormous leap from "Wow, women sure do have a hard time" to "We should abolish the system because it hurts everyone and rebuild it from the ground up."
I don't care if you are into anarchy, but how will that help systematized patriarchy? Because patriarchy has been around far longer than capitalism. Abolishing capitalism would not abolish patriarchy.
As I said before, patriarchy is both an individual and a systemic issue. Tackling one without the other is ineffective.
You are focusing on too much at once, and it's making you directionless. You are also not keeping in mind who your audience is. This is a fetish site. People come here to escape and be horny. While there's always space to discuss treating people as equals, no one wants to discuss politics or economics. Even the numerous posts discussing gender issues will only discuss them in the context of the site and fetish.
So, if you want to have these deep, complex discussions, it would be best to do it on a better platform.
Enas:
I get this! but I'm also saying that in this site there could be a place for people to learn to have, if not empathy, then at least some more basic stuff like respect and patience.
This should be done in a socialist basis, in other words, it's goal must be to be as useful as possible!
I don't think any part of what i just wrote is irrelevant to this site! I
I just wish to see that, because with that other attitude of "everyone is responsible for themselves" we're clearly not making any step at all!
Munchies:
Enas, if you want to make a difference, then you can start by being empathetic towards people. Based on our previous conversations, you struggle to do that. Once you've worked on yourself, then you can turn outwards and talk to other people.
Enas:
How do you arrive to the conclusion that what i struggle id bring empathetic to people?
Seriously, im asking because what i find myself struggling i think, is communication! I hope i dont bother you by asking im just left really confused!
Have you forgotten all of the sexist and racist things you've said to me? The boundaries you've crossed because you don't think they matter? How you've actually said that empathy and respect aren't necessarily important?
Because I haven't.
2 years
Dear ladies of ff
Enas:
The purpose of the forums is to educate, right? There could be more people seeking to educate, and to do it in an effective way. That will have some result. That's why i wrote this thread in the first place! Regardless, i hope that you'll find what you need, comrade! (:
Munchies:
You are correct that patriarchy isn't the source of all society's ills. However, it's an enormous leap from "Wow, women sure do have a hard time" to "We should abolish the system because it hurts everyone and rebuild it from the ground up."
I don't care if you are into anarchy, but how will that help systematized patriarchy? Because patriarchy has been around far longer than capitalism. Abolishing capitalism would not abolish patriarchy.
As I said before, patriarchy is both an individual and a systemic issue. Tackling one without the other is ineffective.
You are focusing on too much at once, and it's making you directionless. You are also not keeping in mind who your audience is. This is a fetish site. People come here to escape and be horny. While there's always space to discuss treating people as equals, no one wants to discuss politics or economics. Even the numerous posts discussing gender issues will only discuss them in the context of the site and fetish.
So, if you want to have these deep, complex discussions, it would be best to do it on a better platform.
Enas:
I get this! but I'm also saying that in this site there could be a place for people to learn to have, if not empathy, then at least some more basic stuff like respect and patience.
This should be done in a socialist basis, in other words, it's goal must be to be as useful as possible!
I don't think any part of what i just wrote is irrelevant to this site! I
I just wish to see that, because with that other attitude of "everyone is responsible for themselves" we're clearly not making any step at all!
The purpose of the forums is to educate, right? There could be more people seeking to educate, and to do it in an effective way. That will have some result. That's why i wrote this thread in the first place! Regardless, i hope that you'll find what you need, comrade! (:
Munchies:
You are correct that patriarchy isn't the source of all society's ills. However, it's an enormous leap from "Wow, women sure do have a hard time" to "We should abolish the system because it hurts everyone and rebuild it from the ground up."
I don't care if you are into anarchy, but how will that help systematized patriarchy? Because patriarchy has been around far longer than capitalism. Abolishing capitalism would not abolish patriarchy.
As I said before, patriarchy is both an individual and a systemic issue. Tackling one without the other is ineffective.
You are focusing on too much at once, and it's making you directionless. You are also not keeping in mind who your audience is. This is a fetish site. People come here to escape and be horny. While there's always space to discuss treating people as equals, no one wants to discuss politics or economics. Even the numerous posts discussing gender issues will only discuss them in the context of the site and fetish.
So, if you want to have these deep, complex discussions, it would be best to do it on a better platform.
Enas:
I get this! but I'm also saying that in this site there could be a place for people to learn to have, if not empathy, then at least some more basic stuff like respect and patience.
This should be done in a socialist basis, in other words, it's goal must be to be as useful as possible!
I don't think any part of what i just wrote is irrelevant to this site! I
I just wish to see that, because with that other attitude of "everyone is responsible for themselves" we're clearly not making any step at all!
Enas, if you want to make a difference, then you can start by being empathetic towards people. Based on our previous conversations, you struggle to do that. Once you've worked on yourself, then you can turn outwards and talk to other people.
2 years
Dear ladies of ff
FAMGM:
Social structures foster sexism.
Curiousv:
Lack of social structure fosters warlordism.
Check out any place and time on the planet where a region had no effective government. Would you want to live there?
Humans are flawed. But many humans also try to be good. No matter what kind of social structure you have or don't have, a certain percentage of humans will be assholes. If someone promised you that by breaking society apart and implementing their idea of a new system will bring out perfect utopia where every single human being will cooperate with everyone in everything without any issues, then you've been led on and you might unknowingly be serving an upstart dictatorship which will make things worse, much much worse. Several infamous systems in the past century started this way, which such promises...
Our current society (it seems almost every commenter here is from a country belonging to the "Western civilization" ), despite having some flaws we could work on to make it better, is still the civilization which gives the best quality of life and the most personal freedom to common people, across the entire human history, and it has been built up gradually over many many centuries. Anyone who denies that, denies basic reality, and shows an utter lack of knowledge about history.
If you want to completely demolish it and build something completely new out of the ashes, chances are the result will be much worse than what we have now.
Social structures foster sexism.
Curiousv:
Lack of social structure fosters warlordism.
Check out any place and time on the planet where a region had no effective government. Would you want to live there?
Humans are flawed. But many humans also try to be good. No matter what kind of social structure you have or don't have, a certain percentage of humans will be assholes. If someone promised you that by breaking society apart and implementing their idea of a new system will bring out perfect utopia where every single human being will cooperate with everyone in everything without any issues, then you've been led on and you might unknowingly be serving an upstart dictatorship which will make things worse, much much worse. Several infamous systems in the past century started this way, which such promises...
Our current society (it seems almost every commenter here is from a country belonging to the "Western civilization" ), despite having some flaws we could work on to make it better, is still the civilization which gives the best quality of life and the most personal freedom to common people, across the entire human history, and it has been built up gradually over many many centuries. Anyone who denies that, denies basic reality, and shows an utter lack of knowledge about history.
If you want to completely demolish it and build something completely new out of the ashes, chances are the result will be much worse than what we have now.
So-called "warlordism" is a social structure as well. So long as there are at least two people, there will be some social structure - good or bad. That's how people work.
As a woman of color, I'm not sure I agree with your statement concerning Western societies being the best form of civilization. Especially since, in my country, my rights are being stripped away. I don't want to live somewhere else, but I know that my living situation is not the best.
If you talk to the other minorities on this site, they will disagree with many of your statements.
2 years
