Munchies:
Hoo boy. Where do I begin?

I've worked in the health care industry for many years so I remember a time when Ozempic was just a medication for type 2 diabetic struggling to get their blood sugar under control. As in you tried diet, exercise, and other medications so it was time for the big guns.

Celebrities telling people they take Ozempic for weight loss is the worst possible thing. The first is that diabetics have been struggling to get their hands on this life-saving medication. I've spoken to countless diabetics telling me about how they've had to ration their medication or go without because the pharmacy is out.

The second is that taking diabetic medication when you aren't diabetic will mess up your internals. Plus, if you stop taking the medication, you gain it all back. I can understand taking this if you are severally obese, in poor health, and nothing works. But for everyone else? I can't justify it.

I wouldn't be shocked if there's a class action lawsuit about this in the future.

PolyPinoyPuppy:
I actually hadn't realized how Ozempic was supposed to be the last line of defense for diabetics; I knew the off-label use was causing shortages but... wow.

Isn't the Hippocratic oath supposed to prevent this sort of thing? Obviously it's not a binding legal oath, but...

This reeks a bit of the same stink around the opioid epidemic.

MYF420:
I see it as just another money making scheme by big pharma. Someone shared this article before:
nypost.com/2023/03/17/patient-influencers-paid-by-big-pharma-to-mislead-followers-report/amp/ 

It honestly makes my skin crawl to think of all the people injecting themselves with this heavy-duty toxic stuff just for the side effect of having a decreased appetite.

My understanding is that the weight loss associated with it is more due to gastrointestinal disturbances rather than the actual mode of action of the drug (it slows digestion, leaving food in the stomach for days so the person isn't able to continue eating). I've seen it referred to as an eating disorder injection.

I read that, when treating diabetes, these are typically second-line drugs that are only prescribed when patients had not been successful treating diabetes with other drugs.

And yet, my wife's doc offered to prescribe it to her for off-label use to lose weight, even though she doesn't have any weight-related health issues.

I would definitely agree that this trend is bringing out a lot of negative sentiment toward being overweight. My hope is that it will be short-lived.

PolyPinoyPuppy:
Here is a collection of articles covering the messy new frontier of Ozempic and similar drugs.

getpocket.com/collections/unpacking-the-ozempic-craze

I don't have a lot of places to talk candidly about a topic like this, and certainly not where I can talk about it's effect on feederism and its perception, if any.

The first thing I want to talk about is that these drugs are *expensive*. They can only be afforded the by the wealthy right now. On one hand, if this continues to be the case even as availability and variety grows, I worry that the feedback loop of conventional attractiveness in positions of wealth and influence will only grow.

Ideally, however, the cost of these drugs will go down to support the needs of anyone who wants or needs them. Don't get me wrong; this isn't about the moral or medical superiority of a thin body or something like that. I just think that people should have the freedom to choose their body type, and those who struggle with diet or exercise as a form of weight loss could find these drugs quite liberating, to say nothing of the benefit to those with type 2 diabetes.

That said, in a hypothetical world where a weight loss drug is widely available, where do you think that will leave feedists or even just people who don't care about whether they are thin or fat?

In many ways, I fear that the current biases against fat people would be exacerbated in a world where being fat was seen as an overt choice not to "treat a disease" even more than it is today.

And while I've been lucky enough to find two partners who don't think feeders are inherently predatory creeps--including one who is open to me feeding them once in a while despite not being part of the community--I can't help but wonder if mainstream perception of feeders would be damaged by an emphasized perception that we get off on inflicting preventable harm on others. If everyone around me is thin except my partner, that feels like it would start to raise questions.

I don't think this hypothetical future is imminent--even ignoring their cost, Ozempic and its cousins have quite the list of uncomfortable side effects. And who knows--maybe there's some positive to fat acceptance and appreciation to be found here, in a world where body weight becomes a choice. Indeed, maybe this focus on developing new drugs might yield a treatment that alleviates the health issues of being fat without eliminating fat itself.

But it's still an interesting discussion to have, so I'd like to ask for your thoughts on the matter.

Imnothereghost:
So I have the cream after breakfast and dinner (just before I go to bed) and sometimes around 5pm if I get the chance. but I thought I would have gained something as nothing else has changed I just added cream to my usual routine.

Imnothereghost:
I’ve been taking 300-450ml of double cream (1,400-2,100 calories) almost each day for 1 month but I weighed myself and have around the same weight as before I started somehow.
Am I doing something wrong?

ChubbyChased:
I have. Low-T

ChubbyChased:
I figure if there’s anywhere that I’d even feel comfortable discussing this very sensitive topic… it’s here.

I’ve found it increasingly difficult to harden enough of my shaft to really get a good stroke. This is largely because less of my shaft is accessible due to my weight, but also I just feel like it’s not getting as hard as I remember (even apart from the length issue). Thoughts?

Anyone else experiencing similar scenarios?

Feedee30125:
Been trying the cream and i feel like its working but im get sore where my abs use to be. Is that just normal from putting on weight for first time or possibly the cream? Only been doing 150 ml in morning and before bed

Munchies:
Sore abs from drinking heavy cream? That's a new one.

What all are you doing? Not just drinking heavy cream. I mean in general.

Feedee30125:
Noodles and pasta mainly. If its not the cream then im probably just not use to all the food ive been eatting.

Munchies:
So, your diet is noodles, pasta, and heavy cream?

Darling, you're constipated. Eat some fruits and veggies. Get you some Miralax and drink plenty of water.

You can't live off of starches and heavy cream. That's how you mess up your internals and have to go to the ER.

Feedee30125:
@_@ theyre so good though lol but ill add fruit to my diet. I do like fruit

Feedee30125:
Been trying the cream and i feel like its working but im get sore where my abs use to be. Is that just normal from putting on weight for first time or possibly the cream? Only been doing 150 ml in morning and before bed

Munchies:
Sore abs from drinking heavy cream? That's a new one.

What all are you doing? Not just drinking heavy cream. I mean in general.

Feedee30125:
Noodles and pasta mainly. If its not the cream then im probably just not use to all the food ive been eatting.

Feedee30125:
Been trying the cream and i feel like its working but im get sore where my abs use to be. Is that just normal from putting on weight for first time or possibly the cream? Only been doing 150 ml in morning and before bed