On at least one occasion.

There's this bar I go to on occasion (before the virus, anyway), though I didn't go as often as I did to other places. However, I miss it now. It's a bit of a dive, karaoke most nights so the patrons provide their own entertainment, but the beer is cold and the drinks are fairly cheap for the area.

I also can't help but notice that nearly all the staff, and the patrons are overweight and obese, even more so than the local population on average. The patrons do tend to be somewhat less formal than I might like, probably like most Target patrons, but whatever. Also a bit more blue collar than I might prefer, unlike the other place which seems to be more a balanced mix of blue and white collar which I usually prefer, but I digress.

So one time, I saw this couple in their mid 20s there who didn't seem to be regulars, at least I haven't seen them before.

She was Latina, and kind of curvy but not super big. I would guess her BMI would have been right at 25, or slightly higher. But definitely not super skinny. Also came from Louisiana, or a recent ancestor did, but is it Texas.

But her boyfriend and possible fiance, that's a different story. He's white, and he was BIG. At least 250, but probably close to 300 lbs.

The conversation went all over the place, but a couple things really stuck out to me. First was just how food obsessed she seemed to be. Definitely the sort who probably makes large meals, and holidays aren't holidays unless there's a huge feast for everyone.

She was probably quite drunk, but even seemed slightly insistent because I guess she really likes seafood. Almost seemed offended that I had no opinion about it. But I come from the Midwest. While every supermarket does of course have seafood, it's not as big of a thing as it would be in Louisiana. I can't remember the last time I ever had any.

The second thing was about how they met, because I guess I asked about that. I guess when he was 18 or 19, many years before now, he started working at some place, and a coworker was an older family member of hers. At some point, this coworker introduced them. She recalls being skeptical, because he was white, but was glad she was talked into giving him a shot.

But she volunteered another bit of information.. that he was quite skinny at the time.

This means that in the last 5+ years they were together, it looks like he must have doubled his weight, or more. She clearly didn't mind, and I doubt he minded either.

Most likely, he has grown fat off of her cooking, and is probably still getting fatter.

I would guess they will get married, he'll keep eating big, and he'll never weigh under 300 lbs. ever again.


I didn't ask them about feederism, because it would have been awkward. Her mother/aunt/grandmother was with them too for whatever reason.

I wouldn't have known if they would have known what feederism even is.

But, that was the most obvious display and strong hint of feederism I've seen in person, to date.

Really? Hope she keeps it up, though I won't be surprised if she won't want to mix it in with something later.

Most folks don't take to drinking heavy cream straight because it can be kind of thick. So, they usually prefer to mix it into something.

I'll drink half & half like milk, though since that's pretty much all it is.. creamier milk. 10.5% fat vs. 3.5%.

One recipe I like is one bottle of Ensure Plus (or Equate Plus, Wal-Mart's knock off) to 1 cup heavy cream. That's 1,150 calories in only 16 fl. oz., more calories than any milkshake you can get at takeout, in a much smaller size. I think it's easier to drink too, but that's my opinion.

Though lately I've also been adding a cup of half & half to the recipe, so it's 1,470 calories in 24 fl. oz. I'm sure at some point I'll upgrade to a double serving of the original recipe; 2,300 calories in 32 fl. oz.

Apologies if it seemed judgemental, as that wasn't intended. It was curiosity, more than anything.

But yes, being in the service requires certain physical fitness standards including body fat percentage and maximum weight. Sounds like an absolute nightmare for anyone into feederism, so my condolences.

It'll be interesting to see if they ever relax or expand these standards, since right now, probably 80% of those age 18-25 are ineligible to join for one reason or another. The most common reason? 67% are too heavy or fat.

What kind of job has a requirement like that?

Seems unusual, even a bit discriminatory if there isn't a bonafide, legitimate reason for it. Why modeling and acting are the only jobs anywhere where they can hire based on age, race, gender, height, weight, overall looks, etc.

Heard of mobile phone tower technicians being subject to a maximum of 250 lbs because the safety harnesses aren't designed for more, but that seems like B.S. and a cop-out. I don't believe it would be that hard to make a safety harness that could handle more.

Another thought might be sewer plumber because those manholes are only so big, but over time I might expect them to increase in diameter. Newer NYC MTA train cars have wider seats than the old ones, so they must know something.

If that's all Thick-It is, almost may as well just get pure maltodextrin powder for much cheaper, right?

That is, if someone wants to go that route.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Do you mean mixing that weight gain powder (e.g. Serious Mass) with heavy cream?

If so, you will be disappointed and frustrated. Awhile back, I tried to mix this weight gain powder but instead of water or milk, I used half & half.

The mix was SO thick, it was virtually undrinkable. It was very difficult to get through a straw. After only getting about 4 fl. oz. down, I tried to save the rest of it to try later. But I never did, because it was just SO thick.

Heavy cream is even thicker than half & half, as you know. I suspect if you mixed that with the weight gainer powder, even pudding wouldn't be as thick.

Not to mention the fact the weight gain powder is very expensive for the calories. $20 for only 8 scoops of that stuff, and each scoop only have 625 calories or so.

I feel like a better way to get a bit more protein is to just increase the amount of meat you eat, in whatever form you like the best. Add bacon to burgers, or have more bacon or sausage at breakfast. Or add an additional beef patty to your burgers. Usually eat a single? Have a double. Usually have doubles? Have a triple.

For shakes, one good recipe I like is mixing 1 cup of heavy cream (800 cals) with 1 cup of Ensure Plus (350 cals). That's 1,150 calories, about twice as fattening as most milkshakes of a similar volume, yet it tastes just like a more liquid, and a bit less sweet. I recommend having that chilled, if you can. It tastes quite refreshing this way.

Oh and both Kroger (Fortify Plus) and Wal-Mart (Equate Plus) have their knock off store brand equivalents to Ensure Plus. Just as good but much cheaper.

Sure, in theory there's also Boost VHC (530 calories in 1 cup) but it's a slightly worse calories/$ ratio than Equate Plus, though a better value than Ensure Plus.

I don't know what your budget is like, but if it's high enough, I suppose after exercise you could always hit up a fast food joint. Try to work your way up to eating the largest combo if you aren't doing so already. Lots of protein in those burgers. It's too bad you don't have Whataburger, as their triple has an impressive 65g of protein. Maybe you have Freddy's. The McD's Double Quarter Pounder isn't that big but that's an option virtually everywhere.

With any luck this should mean you'll eventually grow into L or XL yoga capris (and possibly more if you want).

Not me, at least not yet. But I haven't yet graduated to the point of having a large enough appetite to really justify it. I look forward to when I do. This virus crisis should be over by then, or else we'll be in a LOT of trouble.

I do however, feel sorry for anyone who loved to visit them before. It can be a very good value if you're part of the 1-5% of customers who are loss leaders. That is, you eat enough on each trip that you cause a negative profit margin on an individual basis and they lose money on you. They make up the overall profit margin from the other customers, though.

I heard of one of the cruise lines that tried to run another voyage anyway. It was an epic fail with a terrible COVID outbreak, but that's not the point. In light of the virus, one thing they did was not have buffets on board for that trip.

Of course, my first thought was "Wow, seriously? Isn't that pretty much most of the reason to go on a cruise to start with? Sure, you visit all these places but let's get real.. 1 or 2 days isn't enough time to properly explore and learn about a place."

Main reason I'd even want to go on a cruise is so I could stay stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey each day, hopefully gaining 1-2 lbs a day and perhaps go up a size.

It's gonna be awhile before I could consider going on a cruise, though. It also doesn't help that I'm single, don't have anyone I could go with, and the rates for 1 person cost just as much as the rates for 2.

This was a long time ago, back when Steak & Shake had multiple shake sizes; small, medium, and large. At some point they moved to only one size; 16 fl. oz.

In those days, a large shake was 32 fl. oz, or a quart. The most I had at once was two of them. I was rail skinny back then, so I had to eat almost nothing before doing that. Oddly enough, I haven't been able to repeat this or something similar.

At some point, I may try to melt a carton (most are 1.5L or 48 fl. oz) and funnel it. As the whipping effect and thus, volume is lost, that should condense to about 32 fl. oz. - 1 quart.

It might be easier than the heavy cream + nutritional shake 50/50 mixes I often like.

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