Are you sure about that?

There may be a few things you can try to be sure. if her eyes light up when you ask for seconds, or when you rub your belly after eating.

It does seem like a lot of extra trouble, since I don't usually hear about housemates doing that.

Do you hang out with her, socially? If so, does she seem to get a little too excited if you suggest getting something to eat? Then seems a bit too overjoyed if it's a larger amount of food or if it's calorie dense?

Just some thoughts I have.

By the way, Private Selection is a store brand exclusive to Kroger, so that's just to say where one might go to get them. It's decent stuff, so it's in no way lower quality or anything like that.

Alas the OP is in the UK, where I'm fairly sure Kroger doesn't operate, so this is for reference for anyone else reading.

Although I'm sure there's lots of bakeries in the UK that make this sweet stuff, hopefully even at a good price.

You may as well roll with it and see how it goes.

But a very similar thing happened to me!

I think a LOT of feeders develop some feedee/gainer tendencies and gain some weight themselves. Partly it's due to a typical lack of any other outlet for this, but when you're around so much delicious food, you're going to sample it and likely get sucked in. There's a reason why the saying "never trust a skinny cook" exists.

I started off with loving chubby/fat women, and formerly thin women who gain a substantial amount of weight. Of course, I still do, but like you I got curious at some point.

See, the thing is, it seemed like gainers/feedees have a lot of fun. I wanted to see what that's all about. About a couple years ago, I finally gained the courage (no pun intended) to do it. I started off with a modest goal of 10-15 lbs. I loved it, but it didn't seem like enough, so I set more, higher goals and kept going. 2 years and about 40 lbs later, I only want to gain even more! I'd like to gain an additional 40 lbs, at least.. likely much more. In fact, more and more I think I'd like to double my starting weight, where my thighs will be at least big around as my waist once was. I'm not sure where I'd like to stop, but I know it's much larger than I am now.

I get thrilled and even turned on when I see the number on the scale go up, and ever larger numbers on the tape measure.

I've also noticed and experienced what seems like an increase in confidence. Just something about being more massive. More and more flesh, and it's all me!

Here's another thing I've noticed too. As I've gained more weight, it seems like my desire for large or gaining women (or at least doesn't mind getting fat for me) has only increased. It now seems more important than ever now. Very thin women seem even less desirable to me now than ever before. So, it's likely a good thing the U.S. is getting fatter every year.

I also notice I both want and need more food, and I crave fattier, and more calorie laden/dense foods. If it's fatty, sweet, and/or loaded with carbs, I want it. I don't even want a salad unless it has creamy dressing and cheese on top. I also notice I actually enjoy eating and mealtimes now, when before it was mostly just a means to an end. And who couldn't use a bit of joy every day?

If anything, I actually get sad when I start to feel full, because usually I want to keep eating.

I even developed a fantasy where after I get married, I'd like to go on a cruise where both of us will hopefully gain 1-2 lbs a day for 2 weeks!

Of course, there have been a few factors at play:

- At one time, I really was far too thin, even by non-feederism standards. Eventually, I got sick of this.

- In the U.S. and virtually all of the western world, there's no social advantage of any sort, in virtually any social setting for a man to be skinny.

- Almost every couple I've seen with a fat woman, the man is large as well. This could however be a function of where I live. I've only lived full-time in the Midwest and now Texas. It's reasonable to thus believe it will be easier to date fat women if you yourself are fat.

- There's still a bias in minds of many (not necessarily all) women where she wants a man who's larger and heavier than she is, or at least somewhat close. e.g. A "typical" 250 lb woman would be more likely to go out with a man who's 220+ lbs than someone who's only 140.

- The more I can eat, the more she may feel free to eat and gain weight as well.

So I guess, it didn't cause a switch to a different role, but if anything has been an enhancement, as well as provide an additional source of pleasure.

The only real downside so far is a larger clothing expense, but that's to be expected. Other large expenses are potentially possible, such as only certain office chairs or only certain cars, but you'd have to gain a LOT of weight before that even begins to be a problem, likely much larger than most folks will ever get.

So far I've observed that as my weight increases, I'm usually able to regularly eat somewhat more. I'm talking about regular meals, not one-off occasional stuffings.

Although the amount doesn't seem to be way more. I suspect I would have to gain much more. I hear about 250 lb men who regularly need two entrees at restaurants, for example.

I still struggle a bit and still have to make myself eat much more. Just have to remember the more I do it, and the more weight I gain, the more I'll be able to eat!

Over time, I've come to realize that the short answer is that...

I don't really know!

But that's not a satisfying answer, so I'll elaborate. While I set small goals, the thing is so far, every time I got close to reaching a goal I end up setting another, higher goal because it doesn't seem like enough!

Every time I gain more, so far I have only want to gain even more. To be able to eat more, to take up more space, to feel more substantial.

My current near term goals are 170 and then 200, with 220 after that. But I suspect I may want to get to 250, maybe even 270. Guess I'll find out!

I have never heard of that before. But I also haven't heard of sprinkling breakfast cereal on top of ice cream until I heard about that, either.

But perhaps it's not such a stretch, since breakfast burritos stuffed with scrambled eggs are a thing.

Was this something he (she?) came up with himself?

I would be very surprised to see this on any restaurant menu anywhere, and I suspect most members of the general public might think, even express mild disgust if briefly, much like most eating challenges (e.g. eat a 28" pizza in 1 hour, or Hwy 55's burger with 55ish oz. of beef to eat in 30 mins.), but then just go on with their lives.

However, since I want to gain weight, and a lot of it, but even if I wasn't (I seem to enjoy more foods in general, at least heavier and richer food since gaining some weight), well...

... this idea sounds like it would be absolutely divine! Of course, in my opinion anyway, at some point it should be tried with bacon bits inside.

I'm always looking for more fun ways to increase my appetite and gain weight.

As mentioned in the web site rules, English is the required language on FF.

Please be assured this is nothing personal. Sorry to rain on everyone's parade.

Locking this thread.

I keep hearing about cake mix bloats / shakes, but what's the recipe? How do I make one?

Is it something I can have right before bed? 8-10 hours sounds a bit long.

Would it help me increase my appetite? I want to be able to do things like eat an entire large pizza or two triple burgers (at Whataburger a triple has 3/4 of a pound of beef) in a sitting. Of course I hope it helps add weight and thickness. I also want to be able to occasionally drink an entire quart of heavy cream in one go like it's almost nothing.

So many questions!

At this time I can't think of an actual mattress that would be good for this, so I will leave that question for someone else. But consider bed frames.

However, I recall an old story my mother told me that a coworker of hers told her.

This lady was over 400 lbs, and so was her boyfriend/husband (I don't remember which but it's not important for this story). This was also in the early 80s, where everyone on average was much thinner. Too thin in fact, but that's a different topic. I guess that nearly 900 lbs of fleshy softness, and all the shaking while doing the nasty was just too much. So one night when doing it, their bed frame broke and it caused a loud crash. It was hard to contain myself, especially since it's my mother who passed that story on.

Point is, either do without a bed frame, or make sure it's extra reinforced or sufficiently strong enough. Not sure if today's bed frames might be stronger, but they could be.

Or go ahead with a weak bed frame. If it broke under the combined weight of myself and a future girlfriend, I would likely be turned on and thrilled.

Aside from the very high cost of calories for the dollar, I don't recommend it. I also tried Serious Mass, but the others are likely the same story.

The powder doesn't seem to mix well. Maybe it mixes better with water or skim milk, as is suggested with many of them.

But that's no way to pack on pounds. I tried to mix Serious Mass with half & half (not even any heavy cream) and it's SO thick it's almost undrinkable. It's difficult to suck it through a straw. I will not be buying it again. So, save your money.

But here's a better idea of what to use - nutritional shakes. Even Ensure Plus and Boot VHC, as expensive as they are, are a better value than those gainer powders.

But you know, both Kroger (Fortify Plus) and Wal-Mart (Equate Plus) have a store brand equivalent with such as many calories and equivalent portions of the vitamins. I haven't tried proper Ensure Plus, but the Equate Plus is very good, at least the chocolate flavor is.

The consistency seems to be about as thick as chocolate milk, except it tastes even sweeter. At 350 calories per 8 fl. oz., it even beats half & half on calorie density, though not on price. I prefer to use it as a flavoring agent for cream, which is quite thick and isn't always the best taste on it's own.

If you mix one bottle of this stuff (8 fl. oz.) with an equal part of heavy cream, you get something that tastes like a melted milkshake but has considerably more calories. 1,150 yummy, delicious calories in only a pint of volume.

It's nice for drinking while playing video games, where you will hopefully lose all track until you realize the cup is empty and it's time for another serving.

I have noticed the OP is in the UK, so I'm not sure what options there will be regarding nutritional shakes, or the pricing. But it's something to look at, the next time you go shopping for food. In the U.S. at least, this stuff is usually located near the pharmacy and in the case of Wal-Mart, it's even in the same aisle as the gainer powders.