To all the pro-diet posters:

Please note, you all appear to be thin and not to have much experience with living in a fat body. I would ask you to consider believing fat people, not all of whom are self-indulgent liars.

And TubbyBoy, please accept this large bouquet of lilies and orchids for being one of the smartest and most articulate posters around. I love you

Hmmmm, I think Max is being a bit overly grim.

As for me, it's not about a particular body, starting or ending, but about the indulgence and expansion. FWIW.

Um. There was no call whatsoever to be shouting at us for disagreeing with you.

The point being made by the women [and men, though you didn't notice] you disagree with you is that the 'ultimate ssbbw' might not be defined ONLY by her body.

I like to think that the men I date like me for many reasons, not just one. And I prefer some of them to be about things you can't poke with a stick.

From Wikipedia:

Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor[1]), entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem, is the principle that "entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity" and the conclusion, thereof, that the simplest explanation or strategy tends to be the best one.

The simplest explanation, in the case of very fat women or very buff men with only one photo, might appear to be that the photo is not of them. I *think* that's what was being suggested, if I didn't misunderstand.