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Damn it... the last post got cut off due to length. Guess it just shows how wonderful I think they are.

I'm going to try to continue on where I left off. Without further ado..


I love when they use tasteful makeup and style their hair, knowing it makes a huge difference, rather than letting it all go to hell.

I love when fat women they wear clothes that traditionally (at least 20+ years ago) was only socially acceptable for thin/or skinny women to wear, even though such clothes look the worst on them. Mini-skirts, midi-skirts (above the knee), skinny jeans, sleeveless tops that show a bit more cleavage and skin. Form fitting dresses that flaunt the figure rather than try to conceal it. When she goes swimming or to the beach, she's willing to wear a 2-piece bikini, unafraid of revealing her mid-section.

I don't mind and even enjoy light physical activity at times, such as walks and enjoying the outdoors, but I know she will never expect anything vigorous. She'd rather we plop out widening butts down somewhere as we suck milkshakes dry.

With her figure she almost certainly eats a lot and knows what's tasty and delicious. There's a higher chance she may also know how to cook very delicious, calorie-laden food. Your own waistline is likely to expand when you eat her cooking, but so what? That just means you'll be able to eat even more delicious food later on!


She's likely to be focused on gluttony and hedonism. Dinner simply isn't complete without a large, tasty dessert. If it tastes good and feels good, she wants more of it.

It's a life that's bigger; not just literally, but figuratively and metaphorically too. More of everything that makes like fun and worth living. And really, who wouldn't want that?!


As I've gained weight myself, I've noticed that if anything, the desire for a fat woman has become more intense. The thought of being with a very thin or skinny woman was already disagreeable but as become more so. As I gain more, I expect this to become even more important.

It would also be a bonus if I didn't necessarily have to hide and sneak when I have heavy cream based weight gain shakes on some nights, or that I like to drink half & half like milk.

That's a nice picture, though I think you may need to upgrade to the next size up for underwear.

A better question would be "what don't I like about fat women?"

I often joke the only downside is that during the honeymoon, I will not be able to perform carrying her "over the threshold" where I pick her up in my arms, because she will simply just be too heavy. Good thing I don't care about that.

I do have some upper limits where I might have a problem, but that's when one is unable to be and take care of herself independently, assuming nominal access to modern technology while living in an urban area (or what most folks will have). I expect you to be able to drive a car, cook in a kitchen, and be able to work at a career job without assistance, for example; everything one might have to do when living alone. But odds are you're never going to be that big; most folks will never get to that point.

Nowadays, I can only imagine marrying a fat woman. I try to keep an open mind, and never say never, but if she's rail skinny, well... there better be just something really special about her to catch and keep my interest, in spite of being very thin. Right now I can't picture this.

Even then, it will be difficult for me not to encourage her to have larger portions, suggest snacks, integrate food into dates that have nothing to do with food, or try to set up social situations where it's awkward not to eat something fattening. If the BMI is below 30, that just seems too thin.

Hell, when I marry a fat woman... I don't know if I'll be able to but for the honeymoon, I want to go on a cruise, hopefully for 2 weeks. I'd want to pig out with her, eating and drinking a lot, hopefully gaining at least 15-20 lbs.

Anyway, my reasons aren't just physical or physiological, but kind of psychological/personality too.

Some of the physical/physiological things I like are...

I like curves, big boobs, and big butts. Fat women have those in spades.

I love the softness. Everything from the cankles wedged into heels all the way to the sausage fingers and plump hands. It feels almost electric when I shake hands with any fat woman. If I find her attractive, I feel like I have to contain myself.

Hugs are much more fun, since I can feel the fat and softness being squeezed, even slightly in my arms. Even when I feel the back fat seep between my fingers.

I've also read that the more weight she gains and more body fat she has, there's something about it that causes a marked increase in sex drive. It's not entirely clear to me why this is; an effect on estrogen perhaps? Either way, who wouldn't love that? It's unclear to me if this has the same effect on men.

And of course, there's something very alluring when her boobs, butt, and thunder thighs have that slight jiggle every time she takes a step.

The other day, I saw, and can still picture in my mind this upper middle age lady I saw at the shopping mall the other day. Probably early 50s, 3-4 inch heels, cankles wedged in. Probably about 5'6"? Must have weighed at least 250 lbs, probably 300. Boobs were probably E or F. Nicely styled hair; think it had some curls at the end rather than a Brazilian blowout. Makeup was tasteful too. Her dress was somewhat flowey, but also slightly tight and curve hugging. That quiver every time she took a step. I almost lost it. She would have been too old for me, but man.. if my future wife looked kind of like that when she's 50, and I got to see that every day? What's not to love?

I could probably go on, but I think I'll move on to the more psychological/personality part of it.

Certain psychological/personality things I like are...

Disclaimer: This more applies to women who are confident in their size. Sadly, some women aren't there yet, and it makes me sad. The ones who torture themselves by eating terrible food that tastes bad in a bid to diet the weight off, torture themselves at the gym, and/or wear unflattering clothes that look bad because she tries to conceal her size (which never works). I'm not against trying to help some women try to work past that, but she has to be open minded enough to get there; this can't be forced.

I know.. I should be pleased that weight loss diets usually fail, with the result being that she usually gains all the weight back and then some, ending up even heavier. But I'm not, because the sadness and anguish it causes. There's enough bad things in this world as it is, so why add to that? Okay, end of disclaimer.

I love how fat women both eat and drink more, and can party harder. They're less likely to be unable to hold their liquor.

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Using a tape measure you should be able to figure it out. There's a myriad of guides on how to do this, online. It's not rocket science.

It's sometimes hard to tell. It gets costly if you have to replace your entire wardrobe every time. It's also difficult because no one has a constant rate of gain, and the rate of weight gain can vary even if you are consistent with your calories, which is also easier said than done. At least, it can be difficult if you want to avoid getting clothes you might not be able to use for awhile. You might hit a plateau so you do have to consider this possibility.

At best it's an inexact science, or art but maybe some of the things I say will be helpful.

Some clothes also aren't exactly the cheapest, but these tend to be somewhat more forgiving regarding size.

For regular clothes (not underwear) I recommend you get a small number of items in the next size up, and maybe a couple items 2 sizes up, kind of as an inspiration. I have some "slim fit" XL size collared shirts that are slightly too big right now.

So far anyway, I've noticed that any time I get slightly larger trousers, I slowly expand until they too get snug. I'm also dealing with this very thing too, debating when to upgrade some clothes to the next size up.

As you, the OP is female, this does give you some additional options and flexibility, both formal and informal.

Unlike for men, most women's tops don't have a snug collar that you might button and then tie a tie around it. (Although if you were a man, even if the collar button no longer reaches, you can use the tie itself to keep it together)

You even have the option to wear tops which show some more cleavage, so the point is, it won't be tight around the neck. In office environments, women don't typically wear ties so you have that advantage.

Another option you have are dresses, many of which are somewhat stretchy. I'm somewhat amazed at the number of clothing items I've seen that have some stretch to them now, that previously didn't. Sometimes with stretchy clothes, such as skinny jeans, you might be able to get away with ordering a size even larger.

For things like skirts, you could just make a point of using a belt. May help in the near term if the waist is still too loose because you ordered a size too big.

JCPenney seems to offer a decent value without looking awful (unlike everything at Goodwill or TJMaxx, not that you can shop at those places anyway). Macy's might be okay, as long as you stay away from the store brands, because those seem to be kind of shoddy.

For blazers, which always seem more costly, you might want to just get the next size up. I'm not sure if anyone would notice, especially if you are 285 at 5'5", as your profile says as of this writing. Coats, likely the same way.

Now, one nice thing about underwear is that in general, it's very stretchy and can encompass multiple sizes. So, it's likely to help if you get 2 sizes up. The stretch and shrink will mean it'll likely still fit, and will be able to expand.

As for bras, I'm sorry but I really couldn't say. Just use a tape measure and try to "guessimate" as much as you can, rather relying on whatever size you thought you were before (I read somewhere that at least 2/3's of women are likely using the wrong size of bra). Folks put on weight in different places, so this would likely factor in to whatever you decide to get.

I wonder about the veracity of the story, but I hope it's the truth!

I also hope she gains more. And at her age there's no way she's going to lose a significant amount of weight.

When that happens, hopefully this means the nasty comments will stop.

Even better if they're replaced by comments about the latest delicious and fattening baking recipe she has tried, but that's hoping for a bit much.

NolanHarrison:
is this two quarts over the period of how long? one day?

MustBecomegluttonous:
I once drank 3qt in a day. Just to see if I could. Don't recommend it[/quote]

Geez. Did you vomit? Or I wonder if it all went through you? Can't imagine it felt that good.

I still can't handle 1 quart in a day, even occasionally. The last time I tried that, I threw up. I was only 130ish pounds back then, but still.

I can try a pint a day for a couple days in a row. But I can't seem to do that every day for a week, at least not yet.

Highest I've seen from Sonic is around 1,500 from what I remember, but they're also the largest size at 32 fl. oz.


The most calorie dense option I'm aware of are certain varieties of shakes from Steak & Shake. Although the varieties with the most calories are 880-980 calories, if you order one you will notice they're 16 fl. oz. which makes them more calorie dense.

If you order two of them to match the volume, there will be more calories.

Wow.. 105 was really thin, far too skinny!

I love that you were able to really thicken up during a cruise. This makes me think that whenever I'm able to, that's another reason I should try to go on a 2 week cruise, and pack some clothes in the next size up just in case. And I love the idea of residual weight gain after that.

I'm not as far along as you are, but I too have noticed that with the more weight I've gained, the more I look forward to food. Not just more food, but fattier, more calorie laden food too. I suspect at a certain point I'll pass the point of no return and the seal will be broken.

I think it's likely that you will remain heavy forever.

There are a few cases of those who have been able to maintain substantial weight loss, but they are uncommon. They all require an enormous effort and a very significant change in mindset. Such individuals have to basically stick to both food they likely hate, and almost live in the gym (think 20+ hrs a week), leaving almost no time for anything else. A sad consequence of this is they often become bitchy and obsessed, not fun at all. And it's a process that takes months, even years of basically beating yourself up constantly.

Even in the extreme cases of "My 600 lb Life," virtually everyone featured on those are typically at least overweight or in the low range of obese at the end. Also, you must have noticed the weight loss Doctor himself is at least technically overweight.

So, why beat yourself up? There's less reason to than ever before. There's the body positive movement, and a lot more focus on plus-size fashion, so it's not like all you can wear are ugly mu-mus.