How long is it for?

I've heard of some who were able to gain 1-2 lbs a day, but YMMV.


One of these days, I think I may like to go on a 2 week cruise, perhaps with a sexy BBW who loves eating.

I'd train and prepare for it by overeating every day for hopefully at least a week before it starts to stretch out my stomach and increase capacity. Oh and to bring some larger clothes in the luggage, just in case.

I've also heard of some experiencing residual effects after such a vacation, where for weeks the additional eating, and more weight gain has become the new normal. Of course, you could turn that into months or even years if you want to.

But why did you lose the weight, or want to? This is important in trying to figure out what to do.

Concerned about fitting in? Or that you may be too much larger than the average? I know a lot of folks feel like they have to lose weight because they're "supposed to" but their heart isn't in it.

But why do you want to gain again? Do you want to have a big appetite and be able to eat much more delicious food? Or do you like the feel of the extra mass?

I've had misgivings during the process and I think many others have had it too.

I don't know how helpful I'll be. For me it's been hard for me to get to a nearly "regular" weight. Sometimes I wonder what I've done to myself, but so far I like the changes. However, I'm only about 151 lbs as of this writing. I have a ways to go before I'm overweight and a long ways to go to obesity. So it's pretty clear that I would like to have some more weight. I know I wish I had a larger appetite so I could eat more delicious food, and of course in North America, at least if you're a man, it's better to be overweight than skinny.

But enough about me. What about you? If you're like most here, I suspect you'd rather be able to eat larger portions of delicious food.

One tip of course is to possibly take it easier at first with smaller amounts, and work your way up as your belly gets used to digesting all the dairy fat. The last thing you ever want is to throw up. Not only is that not fun, but those are wasted calories that won't contribute to weight gain.

If it's been a very long time since you last had any, or your diet hasn't been rich enough, it could be a shock.

If necessary, even start off with half and half. It tastes like creamier milk, which is basically what it is. Ideally, you should give up regular milk and only have half and half or cream. Half and half should be pretty easy to drink straight and get down, even if you haven't had any cream in a long time.

Eventually, you should be able to get up to a cup every day, even a pint. If you have too much at first, it could potentially spoil your appetite the next day. That's what happened, the last time I somehow managed to chug an entire quart.

Being consistent with having it again and again, is what's most important, so the added calories and fat will add up.

The recipe you described sounds like it would be hard to drink. Peanut butter is solid, you want something you can suck through a straw.


Another tip, where it sounds like you have the right idea, is to mix the cream with something. Heavy cream out of the carton, most folks don't like the taste. When it's whipped, even then it's usually mixed with sugar.

One recipe I've found that works is 1 pint of heavy cream with half a cup of coffee flavoring syrup like Ghirardelli or Torani PureMade. You pick the flavor you like the best, since they're all fattening. The syrup with the least calories is still 110 calories per fl. oz. So that's at least 2,040 calories in only 20 oz., and you can suck it down with a straw almost mindlessly while at the computer, playing video games, or watching TV.

Another tip that works for some, but perhaps not for others is to try Lactaid pills (or the store brand) for lactose intolerance. Most folks don't normally need them, but others seem to report positive results when taken with the cream, or helps reduce gas. So, YMMV and I'm inclined to think it's some sort of placebo effect.

It's true that cream contains large amounts of dairy fat, which of course is what you're counting on.. but it doesn't really have much lactose, so I'd probably skip the Lactaid pills if I were you.

Is that really accurate though?

There's vanity sizing. Even in men's, for some brands I've noticed that advertised waist size +2" = real waist size.

So I'm leery unless I visit a store for that brand first, and I bring a tape measure.

There's a lot of tolerance, yes.

But acceptance and even desire? I think there's more of that than before. A man being with a larger woman doesn't have the same embarrassment as before.

Courage is still needed, but I don't think it requires as much courage as before.

In 2030, if current trends continue, and there's little reason to think it won't, a little over 50% of the U.S. will be considered obese (BMI 30+). Some demographic groups are already there, now. The average American man now, already weighs 200 lbs standing at 5'9".

In '30, there will be some demographic groups that aren't at 50% but it's spreading to everyone and will only continue to rise.

There's pretty much no choice but to accept it, and love it. It has become normal. What would have been considered an average weight even 30 years ago seems skinny now.

If the rate continues to rise in a linear fashion, which is far from a foregone conclusion, as any number of things will happen, the U.S. will reach an obesity rate of nearly 100% by the turn of the 22nd century. Of course, it may happen sooner. Or maybe later.

Only thing that seems clear is that in the near term, the obesity rate will rise. Long term planning by some organizations assume this. In the newer NYC subway cars, did you know the new seats are wider than the old ones?

I also almost never see anyone cram 3 into the same side of a booth seat in a restaurant, or 3 in the back seating row of a car, SUV, van, etc.

Politics, like anything else, I think one good way is to find local groups that are into this.

There's probably a local organization of some sort with meetings and events, whether Republican, Democrat, Green, etc.

Or maybe you only care about certain issues. For example, at a shooting/gun range, I doubt you'd find anyone there, regardless of his overall general political beliefs, that doesn't support the 2nd amendment, CCW, and so on.

Anyway, I think you get the idea. As long as the organization isn't about extreme fitness and exercise, or isn't heavily male oriented, I think it's almost guaranteed that some folks there will be fat women.

Realistically, I don't think it's possible. If you insist upon this, you'll likely remain single forever.

If you are, or ever have been in such a relationship, you have already beaten the odds. You're probably more likely to win the lottery, then get struck by lightening on the same day, which just so happens to be clear, bright, and sunny. Perhaps I exaggerated somewhat, and it sounds negative, but I'm being pragmatic.

No one will ever admit to this in person, ever.

I live in one of the largest metros of the U.S. In spite of this, I don't see many female users within a suitable age range. Some may even list a false location, so it's hardly scientific. I can't even be sure if they are single, or even if they are, if they would be into me in particular.

Even if I may be willing to be more flexible on some things, there's other things that are set in stone. For example, I'm looking for someone to be the future mother to my future kids, so if you're a single mother who doesn't want more, but you only want a serious relationship, then we have nothing to talk about.

I once met someone in college who admitted she gained 50 lbs in the past year and apparently didn't have a problem with it, probably even liked it since I still saw a lot of Jack's frozen pizza in the fridge. But a near instant personality clash meant there was simply no way at all.

Point is, there's simply too many ways for it to go wrong, even if you did find someone who was explicitly into this.


The best middle ground is to find someone big who loves eating and doesn't care about being or getting fat. Someone big knows it, and is likely aware of eating a lot. This is vastly easier to find.

There's also some other general things. A lot of positive trends have happened in just the past decade, and it's a pretty exciting time to be an FA. A decade ago, stores almost never had plus-size mannequins and there were more women's clothing brands that stopped at size 10 or 12. Now I'm not aware of any that don't offer at least size 18 or 20. Sizes above 24 remain a niche space, but I think it's only a matter of time until this changes.

You see all of this "body positivity" stuff too, which you didn't see before. More often I see women online with screen names that basically say they're proud to BBW and aren't ashamed of it.

Ever watched "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?" It was released, and set in the 90s in rural Iowa. When his mother went to the police station to demand the release of her younger son, everyone in the town stared, pointed, and laughed at her which was horrible. Thing is, while most folks aren't that big, they're so common nowadays that if you see any while running errands, you don't take note of it anymore. No one cares anymore.

I see so many plump women who dress more stylishly now, wearing heeled shoes and in ways that show off their curves. The other day in an indoor shopping mall, I saw this upper middle aged lady in a dress, like she could have went to work. It didn't show off her midriff, but it was obvious she was busty and you could see much of her legs, which jiggled with every step. I saw her slight cankles wedged into her heeled shoes. Then I thought man, her husband is such a lucky man, getting to play with that every day. But, I digress and I'm starting to ramble.

Another point I'd like to make is this. I think a LOT more folks out there want to be fat or even obese than will admit it to anyone, even to themselves. They might think "perhaps I should spend more time at the gym" but then it's "perhaps later" (which turns into never). They might think they shouldn't have this food, but realize it just tastes SO good so they do. Then it's easier to just accept this.

My point is, I'm not going to get my hopes up, as to do so is madness and will lead to disappointment. But while it's unlikely I'll meet anyone in person who's explicitly into this, with a specific goal to gain weight or to make others overeat and gain, I think it's easier than ever to get most of what I may want, outside of the fetish community.

I don't see how anyone else who is able to think pragmatically, could think otherwise. I'm not going to hold out for what seems like a 1 in 1 million chance, any more than I would expect to actually win the lottery jackpot (and that's if I were to purchase tickets every day).

Not at all. I do that too! I'll even explain in depth what I like to do.

I maintain a spreadsheet where row titles are the type of measurement, and column titles are dates.

For all measurements, I hold the tape measure as loose as I possibly can before it almost falls off.

What I mean by "type of measurement" is the following:

Weight - This one is mostly obvious. However, I typically like to do this in the morning, almost naked or just very light underwear, before I eat anything but after #2 (sorry if TMI, but that can throw off the number slightly so it's worth noting this distinction).

Bicep - The circumference of the thickest part of the bicep, while mostly relaxed. For ease of measurement, I hold the left arm horizontal.

Bicep Flex - The same as "bicep" except I flex as hard as I can, which adds a good bit of extra circumference.

Tricep - The circumference of the thickest part of the forearm.

Neck - This is almost exactly like the shirt measurement. Measure around the neck. It doesn't seem to make much difference whether I measure over the Adam's apple or just below it.

Chest - The circumference around the thickest part around chest area, where the tape measure covers the nipples and the tape measure is completely horizontal, level to the floor. Women would likely also wish to measure the "band" measurement as well, which is the circumference just below the breast.

Waist - This is fairly obvious. The circumference around the belly button. Slightly different from the clothing measurement as most trousers and other bottoms sit below the belly button.

Waist High - Similar, but about two inches above the belly button. This number will always be smaller than the waist number.

Thigh - This is the circumference of the thickest part of the thigh. For ease of measurement, I move the left buttock as close to the front edge of the seat as I can, them measure.

Calf - The circumference of the thickest part of the calf, or lower leg. So far I measure by pulling the knee close to my chest, then measure. As I understand this may be a challenge for some folks, an alternative would be to rest your foot on the desk or table in front of you, or have your foot flat on the ground, then measure.

As I'm an American, my preferred measurements are pounds and inches. I typically round to the nearest 1/8th or .1 inches. But Excel (and other spreadsheet programs) have formulas where you can have another row with a conversion, in kilograms and centimeters. This helps if you are talking to someone who lives in a country where that's the prevailing measurements used.

I wish more folks would do this. You can even use the spreadsheet software to create graphs of gains and fattening up over time. I will admit that I don't always conduct these measurement sessions in consistent intervals.

It's also honestly very thrilling to realize that for example, my thighs have expanded past a certain circumference. My near term goal, which doesn't sound like much (but you know, little by little) is 22" thighs. This thrill actually makes gaining even more fun, as there's more ways than just with 10 lb range of weight you fall into.

Now I wonder how much more I'd have to gain to achieve 24" thighs and 12" biceps.

That's certainly part of it and I get what you're trying to say, but I doubt it's exactly the same.

A backpack only applies pressure to the shoulders, whereas extra weight would be in belly, limbs, and especially for women, the breast area.

The weight gain also wouldn't be overnight, giving a chance for the body to get used to it and it does, to some degree.

It's not scientific but I would guess weighing 150 more may be more similar to.. I don't know, carrying 75-100 lbs more in weights? There's also center of gravity too. Carrying a 25" CRT TV alone is difficult, not due to the weight but because of the center of gravity and difficulty in seeing where the next step on the stairs is.

Over the past year I've gained about 25 lbs. It doesn't feel the same as just always carrying 25 lbs of stuff. You're probably mostly right but I don't think it's a pound for pound comparison.

There was an earlier thread here that was titled something like "warning fat may be permanent."

If you were once super skinny, I don't think that will ever happen again. I looked at your profile and you listed your weight as 171. If you try to gain 10-15 lbs, I doubt you'd look that different and it might be a good amount to try.

After a certain point, it would likely be hard to keep the weight off without a dedicated effort as well as eating much less.

Even individuals featured on "My 600 lb Life" (who often have serious problems and aren't happy with the situation) who get the surgery, are typically still overweight/technically obese even afterward, but are never skinny again. All of them still end up being at least 200-250ish lbs. But it's usually a significant improvement in their lives so they are typically satisfied with the results.

I suspect that once you get over 200, it may be hard to get below that again. The lower the weight, the harder it is to lose. But if you get to that point, I suspect you have to at least like it somewhat.

As others have said in replies, others have succeeded in losing 50+ lbs, and it might be possible, but it's not clear where they started from and where they ended up. 350 -> 300, or even 450 -> 300 is going to be much easier than 250 -> 200, which would be easier than 200 -> 150.

I obviously don't recommend the last one (200 -> 150) and not just because I'm an FA.