This is a really good question.....it is very general and different based on the mood I am in and perception at the moment.... and my perception of Fat seems to continually go up.

For example:
When my wife was at her heaviest I could tell she was a lot bigger but she looked so hot and I wouldn't have considered her Fat...only that she had gained a lot of weight to my liking. It wasn't until vacation with several of our friends and I saw her walking on the beach in her XXL tiny string bikini next to two of her friend's ....one of which was 4-5" taller and probably weighed 125-130 lbs. and the other that was only a couple of inches taller but probably weighed 115-120 max.....and my wife who is 5' 3" and was just over 200 Lbs. at that moment. I was in an Awe shock type moment and I actually viewed her as Fat.....her movements were hindered in such a sexy way by all her extra weight and was totally amplified by watching her walk next to her relatively super skinny friends ....her hips swayed and her ass and love handles jiggled and her breasts rythmicly bounced and jiggled out of control with every step...not to mention her now big luscious belly bouncing and shaking with every movement. I for the first time scratched my head and thought to myself WOW...my wife is soooo Fat. After she came back from her walk on the beach we went up to our hotel room to shower and get dressed.....and wow what a different thought occurred as I saw her getting out of the shower....she seemed not nearly as big or fat by herself standing there and all I could think about is wanting her to gain even more weight. So it's crazy to see relative situations when it relates to Fat.

But I guess if I had to choose what I consider Fat aesthetically it would not only have to be one body part such as a bigger belly but more or less several body parts that are exaggeratedly big and soft on ones body making them look considerably bigger than just an overweight individual. And from a physical stand point have Fat on your body that restricts you completely from doing things. I mean not just a woman saying she can't run but more or less trying to tie your shoes and your belly is big enough that it not only hinders you but prevents you from doing so...or trying to cross you legs and you struggle so much that you can barely do it without extreme effort because your thighs are much to big.

I don't even know if this is a great determining factor just a thought .....because I have even struggled and so has my wife and I don't really consider us Fat by any means although society may think so.

I don't know does anyone think just because someone has a big belly they would consider them Fat ....or just describe them as having a bigger belly....or does someone have to be bigger all over?

Interesting thread would love to hear a lot more thoughts and opinions.

Genetics plays the main roll (ha ha...spelling of role) but there are many other things that can aid to weight in other areas....such as mentioned with certain types of food like dairy and heavy cream and age plays a huge factor where it can be distributed as well.

My wife tends to gain weight in her belly first which wasn't always the case....when she was younger she used to gain first in her thighs and ass and it would take many pounds gained before it started showing up on her belly. Nowadays the first 10-15 pounds gained will go to her ever expanding sexy gut and if she keeps gaining her thighs and ass will start filling out and getting bigger and fatter....next her upper arms will seem to almost grow overnight.....and if she has gained a whole lot her skinny longer fingers will start getting a little thicker and puffier.....which is always a sign that she has really put on a good amount of weight. Another interesting thing is she has had a few times where she gained 30-40 pounds and after she lost most of the weight after several years when she happened to gain the next time her once tighter bigger belly seemed much softer and fatter and she has continually grown wider not necessarily out even though it was getting rounder....not to mention her love handles seemed to take on a mind of their own and she developed the most sexy muffin top that never goes away even when she tries slimming down.

When I have gained it mostly always goes to a big beach ball gut and I take on the shape of a "Muscle Chub" but every time I have gained and lost and re-gained my pronounced big gut has softened and even though it sticks out it definitely jiggles much more each time and starts to hang more and more. When I experimented with heavy cream I felt like I gained in my hips and ass as well as my lower abdomen....and it was softer from the get go...it bloats your belly out but seems softer than just stuffing food. I believe this is because it starts putting soft Fat on you right away.

I think someone always wants something different than what they see on themselves sometimes. My wife seems to be embarrassed by her bigger belly over the last several years when I think it is the sexiest thing on earth and such a sensual part to her figure. I have always thought a bigger ass would balance out my huge gut ....but I guess that is just life.

I was wondering if anyone knew if these tight under apparel makes it easier to fit into smaller clothing or it just holds all the luscious fat and bulges to be more contoured and flattering for some?

The reason I ask.....my wife took a desk job 4 or 5 months ago and I was hoping she would really pack on the Lbs. I could tell a month or so ago that she had probably packed on 15-20 Lbs. looking so Hot and I noticed her pencil skirts were straining at the seems and her beautiful bloated belly pushed out in her skirt looking 6 months pregnant. She had trouble even fitting in the skirts now. I noticed several weeks ago while she was getting dressed in our closet that she was putting on some white shorts that extended over her full belly (similar to biker shorts hiked higher) and squeezed herself into them for a few minutes and then put on her Pencil skirt and when she came out she still looked stuffed into her skirt with a very pronounced lower belly but slightly but definitely less snug then before. Again I was wondering if they allow her or someone to fit into clothing which by now she would have outgrown and not been able to fit in or possibly she got the next size up in a few pencil skirts?

I am just putting it out there!!!

I think they both have feeder and feedee tendencies.

First off she says she wants to gain 100 pounds with her pregnancy. I think she likes teasing him and making him fatter even though she acts like she is helping him walk and workout and then feeds him fattening stuff.

Anyone else that has seen any of this think the same thing?

Start putting on weight and see how she reacts 15-20 pounds without mentioning anything. It's enough weight that she should be able to clearly tell you have fattened up but not so much you can't act vulnerable and try talk to her about losing it....because it will seem like an accidental weight gain and she may understand and you get some info. from her without really bringing it up yourself.

From my experience with my wife....I intentionally gained 40+ Lbs. in a short period 3+ months. To my surprise my wife never said anything other than some cute teasing a couple of times when she was slightly intoxicated. My wife does not like Fat on herself but the crazy thing was she kept feeding me some obnoxious amounts of fattening food for meals and always stuffing my plates with seconds before I even finished my initial plate without even asking. I think she loved me getting fatter and the funny thing was she ended up gaining weight along with me and she didn't even seem to care because I was now the fatter one.

I think there were two things that played into this. She thought she was the great homemaker wife that fattened up her husband with all her great cooking. And it was easier to not feel as bad about herself being heavier now that I was the fatter one of the couple. This still doesn't explain why our lovemaking increase so heavily or the fact that she couldn't stop placing her hands on my 9 month pregnant looking gut I developed.

So, I say try gaining the first 20 pounds and try and pick up on her reaction. It may go in a good direction and your woman will love the Fatter you....and by this time next year she will have fattened you up with her cooking an extra 60 Pounds!

Yea....I think this applies to many situations....and yes it is very hot because it has hints of vulnerability and loss of conditioning that really is sexy with weight gain.

* Like a hot thin cheerleader that gains a lot of weight in a short period of time. She struggles to not only to fit into her cheer outfit and squishes out everywhere but struggles to do her cheers jiggling and panting from being so out of shape.

* My wife used to play volleyball in High school and was always curvy but in very good shape. Fast forward to after college and many years later when we were married and she started playing tennis to recently when she is some 40 pounds heavier. Her movements and running have clearly declined not to mention how out of breath she gets after many points. It's even sexier watching her try to fit into many of her tennis outfits with her bulging belly, muffin top and her massive breasts that are smashed in her tight tennis top looking like they extend from her chin to her belly.

On a different note: The out of shape thing is very sexy to me as well as the uncontrollable appetite and secretive snacking she does all the time.

I think it is common for us FA's.... that when our wife loses weight or goes on a diet and tries to lose weight we feel resentment or almost cheated on. I guess because they are trying to change physical features that we love.

I also have gone through stages where I unintentionally gained weight ......noticed it and then intentionally started stuffing and trying to gain a lot more weight producing 40+ Lbs. ....at first because of the void of weight gain on my wife and in our relationship. And same as you during this time I became more interested and aroused with my own weight gain and my fattening than I did with my wife and her slight slow gaining. I guess because I was gaining so much faster than her and the weight is always with us. The more my gaining and belly got bigger the more I wanted to stuff and get even fatter. I to was constantly aroused....but the funny thing was my wife seemed to be aroused by how big of a gut I developed as well....even though she didn't mention it she constantly initiated sex and seemed to love my big gut bouncing into her and pushing her away during sex....not to mention always softly holding onto it. I am not sure to this day if it was a secret fetish she may like, the fact that she was the one who fattened me up with all her fattening cooking or that she liked the fact that I was now the one fatter than she was and it made her feel more comfortable.

I dream of her getting a lot heavier and sometimes feel a bit desensitized because she hasn't been gaining as fast or as much as I would really like. Also, there are so many Fat women that I see on here and online that are gaining and getting so much heavier and compare her small gains to theirs and I feel a bit bummed about. While I gained a huge gut I still desired my wife even though she wasn't getting as heavy as I wished but I turned the weight gain fetish on myself and wanting her to point out my Fat belly and tease me. Maybe you can try the same and direct all of your fattening on yourself and have your wife try and tease you for becoming an over eating pig. Hopefully she will eventually stop dieting and gain all her weight back and more and you will be a big Fat mutual gaining couple even though she wasn't trying to get Fat like you she just couldn't help it and you both keep getting Fat together.

Solid craftsmanship....great job!

Part of the fun is feeling the bed shake and squeak a little without breaking it to the floor. You and your wife may be in for a big surprise when you stay at a hotel for the first time after having your sturdy bed....and hearing the strain, squeak and overall shaky movement of a bed there. Keep gaining and go rock a bed soon at a hotel.

All of this sounds really familiar to me as well.

When I was gaining intentionally it took about 2 weeks of stuffing and pushing myself to eat more and increase my intake. After those 2 weeks my intake/appetite/belly required much more food without feeling full. After a month or so my appetite didn't have a "shut off valve", meaning I never seemed to get full if I waited enough time in between meals or snacking. But at this stage I was eating non stop so it was tough to tell if I was hungry.

Anyone else encounter this situation? Because I was stuffing all the time when it came to have my next meal I didn't crave to eat because my belly was still full and so bloated... but the minute I started eating I kept going with ease and never seemed full and could easily still put away enough food for three people. The only reason I would stop eating is because I grew tired ....not full. Intentionally stuffing all the time can really increase your appetite or I guess increase the size of your stomach like a balloon....and that's how you can get really Fat if you get to this stage.

I do seem to get somewhat tired of intentionally gaining after a few months always and have never gained so much to where I couldn't stop but I would imagine there is definitely a point of no return if I were to keep going. The other thing is when I stopped purposely stuffing all the time my stomach and appetite seemed to have shrunk to a more moderate big appetite not a massive embarrassing appetite.

I think the key to really increase appetite without having that full feeling is to stretch out your stomach. Food can do that naturally if you are always eating more and more. What I found to be the fastest and biggest growth was when I was full with a lot of food I would then always drink water, milk and then milk shakes easily expanding my belly to a much bigger than normal size. The crazy thing was early on I would be full but I could easily afterwards drink to Large milkshakes, have several cookies and wash them down with multiple 16 oz. glasses of milk and then finish multiple bottled of water. After a while after stuffing I would always finish with all these high calorie liquids which would stretch my stomach even more and add to the bottomless pit.
After a while of this routine I was easily eating and drinking close to 8-10,000 calories daily.

I was trying to get my wife to gain a bunch of weight by stocking the pantry and freezer with all her fattening Ice creams, chocolates and fattening sweets. After sometime she started to gain a little bit but to my surprise I gained much more than she did. I decided to Intentionally gain until she noticed and commented. It became a thrill and very arousing focusing on the over eating and stuffing on myself. I gained so much faster than I ever imagined and my appetite became really really really huge. I grew a big Fat gut and looked 9 months pregnant...... like a true "muscle chub". My wife never really commented but she kept making us huge fattening dinners all the time and serving me seconds and even sometimes thirds followed by huge deserts every night. I wasn't sure if she was secretly trying to get me fatter or she was just feeding her new Fat husband how much he seemed he needed to eat these day's. She was gaining quite a bit as well and we both went to bed every night totally stuffed and bloated. Both of our sex drives seemed to really peak.....and it was the most amazing sex being so fat and stuffed. Not only would we struggle with several positions but we were so much more submissive and slower during the the act. The way we moved and tried changing positions was much more clumsy and took way more effort. She would lift and maneuver her belly out of the way while she moved my big gut out of the way with several positions. I have to admit it was so arousing having our big distended stuffed bellies getting in the way even though it was more challenging for positioning not to mention how tired we got from being over stuffed and a lack of stamina. Being so stuffed and bloated made it seem like we were so much fatter than we even were because of our movements and our heavy breathing etc. I have to say that big stuffed bloated sex makes you feel like you are 50 Lbs. heavier and I gotta say I loved it.