Ff user who ruins people?

Piggy Teaser:
Whatever is making you feel powerless in your life, that you need to attack strangers on the internet and try to present yourself as morally superior to them, as well as using infantilising language to belittle them, I really hope it gets better and that you work it all out xx


I'm fine sweetheart. Are you?

Nah, I'm talking about a situation I've seen time and time again on FF, Dimensions, and other kink spaces. People, men and women, who say they get off on ruining people's lives really do mean it.

I've seen people brag about how they systematically isolated their feedees as they made them fat. Telling them that no one but them would want them but them. Destroying their support network until the feeder is literally the only person in their lives.

Then they make it so their feedee literally cannot survive without them. They convince them to quit their jobs and focus on getting fat. Sometimes they ruin their health so much they literally need the feeder for all their needs. Often it's both.

Once all that happens, many feeders will bounce straight up once they grow bored. I'll never forget that one guy who proudly boasted that they abandoned their feedee in a nursing home because they got so fat it wasn't fun anymore.

So, would you like to try again?
4 months

Ff user who ruins people?

Piggy Teaser:
My ultimate turn on is ruining someone's life by making them so fat xx

Munchies:


The number one rule of any kink is Safe, Sane, and Consensual. This one certainly breaks the first two.


To be clear, I'm not kink-shaming ruination kinks. There's a way to indulge in that that doesn't break the first kink rule. Ruining someone's life isn't that.

Piggy Teaser:
Would you be saying that if I was a cis femdom woman talking about keeping a sub's cock in a cage until it shrivelled up?

What about financial domination? look around on the net, you'll find plenty of people using that language and plenty of people to whom it appeals.
You are most definitely kink shaming, if this doesn't appeal to you, I suggest you find another post to read xx

Munchies:
Babes, I don't care for people who get off on ruining people's lives. That's different from things like ruining their figure or something.

It's very, very easy to go from "I get off on ruining people's lives" to straight-up abuse.

Piggy Teaser:
Mate, it's a figure of speech and now you're getting into semantics.
I responded to a post on this topic that the OP clearly gets off on.
Go and find something else to be recreationally outraged about or show everyone what a moral safe, righteous person you are -that's the real red flag, the one that is constantly pointing the finger and trying to demonstrate their moral high ground.
You're kink shaming and your implications about my character are completely unfounded and downright hurtful.


Hit dogs yelp, baby girl.

I don't need to show people I'm moral or good. I honestly don't care. I'm simply calling a spade a spade, and the way you are reacting isn't helping your case.

Also, "ruining someone's life:" Isn't a figure of speech, my love. And it especially isn't synonymous with "I get very turned on by the regret of gaining weight/the resignation to the fact that their fat will consume them."

That's a direct quote from you, by the way. There's worlds of difference between that and ruining someone's life.

Would you like to try again, baby girl?
4 months

Ff user who ruins people?

Piggy Teaser:
My ultimate turn on is ruining someone's life by making them so fat xx

Munchies:


The number one rule of any kink is Safe, Sane, and Consensual. This one certainly breaks the first two.


To be clear, I'm not kink-shaming ruination kinks. There's a way to indulge in that that doesn't break the first kink rule. Ruining someone's life isn't that.

Piggy Teaser:
Would you be saying that if I was a cis femdom woman talking about keeping a sub's cock in a cage until it shrivelled up?

What about financial domination? look around on the net, you'll find plenty of people using that language and plenty of people to whom it appeals.
You are most definitely kink shaming, if this doesn't appeal to you, I suggest you find another post to read xx


Babes, I don't care for people who get off on ruining people's lives. That's different from things like ruining their figure or something.

It's very, very easy to go from "I get off on ruining people's lives" to straight-up abuse.
4 months

Ff user who ruins people?

Piggy Teaser:
My ultimate turn on is ruining someone's life by making them so fat xx




The number one rule of any kink is Safe, Sane, and Consensual. This one certainly breaks the first two.


To be clear, I'm not kink-shaming ruination kinks. There's a way to indulge in that that doesn't break the first kink rule. Ruining someone's life isn't that.
4 months

My sexuality and my kinks are exclusively around the big bellies, and nothing else

Munchies:
Just wanna point out that your second therapist is unbelievably stupid and needs to educate themselves. Lotta aces participate in kink.

Fat Dreams:
I left out a lot of context. Sure ace people can participate in fetish, but can a person still be ace if their fetish (and only their fetish) makes them desire sex? Maybe gray ace? I think the definition can get complicated and subjective at that point.


I stand on business. Desiring sex and being sexually attracted to people are two different things. Being grey ace means you can develop sexual attraction as you get to know someone, but you aren't sexually attracted to strangers.

I'm not saying you aren't some flavor of ace or not. I'm saying your second therapist needs to educate themselves on these things before insisting you are or aren't something. That's incredibly irresponsible and a product of them being unbelievably lazy.
4 months

Why does every guy i show interest in want to lose weight all of a sudden?? (rant)

Thanks for providing some insight on the topic. That definitely helps me feel a bit better.

This is why I started going after guys into extreme weight gain. They don't lose weight when you show interest in them and love it when you make them fatter.

HueOrdner:
But where do I find those guys? There are some Austrian feedees at the forum here, but after chatting for a bit most turned out to be weird or creepy, so I never met a feedee in the country I live in.


Feel that. I've met one Austrian feedee that was pretty cool, but he has a girl friend and is no longer on the site.

You may want to expand your search to nearby countries. Alternatively, you can go after guys that really love to eat. Maybe bond over it too.
4 months

Thinking i might tell my wife about interest in gaining

J8o8h8n:
I always go back and forth with the idea of gaining, and I think some of it might have to do with the fact that I am not sure how my wife would react. She, and quite a few of my friends, know I like heavier women and my wife knows I really enjoyed it when she gained a ton of weight over the course of our relationship, but no one knows that I sometimes play around with wanting to intentionally get fat myself.

I'm worried about how that conversation might potentially go, especially more recently since she has had to lose a bit of weight herself due to negative health issues related to her gaining almost 180 lbs over the course of our relationship (she's down about 40-50 from her peak weight, but still 350ish lbs). I feel like it might come across as insensitive/uncaring if I tell her I want to intentionally pack on weight and become fat when her getting fatter ended up having negative health consequences.

I have thrown around the idea of maybe telling her that I want to experiment a bit and get a little bit chubby, maybe 200-250 lbs (I'm currently around 170) to see what it would feel like, because I've always been a bit curious about it. I definitely enjoy hur curves and when she had packed on extra pounds and the idea of gaining weight myself has been something that I've gone back and forth on for a while, but I haven't gone all in on it because I value her thoughts on it and I wouldn't want to do it without my partner knowing about it. I'd also make it clear that if there starts to be negative health consequences with the gain, I'd stop.

I might also try to appeal to the fact that she sometimes wants to take a more dominant role in the bedroom and I could use that fact to get her in a position where she can take a more dominant role by feeding me and encouraging me to gain (appealing to things we both want to try). Curious to see what other people's thoughts are? I'm hoping to finally come to a decision and get it off my chest soon. (If I do and she's on board, maybe I could see how big I can get before my next Doctor's appointment in November lol?)


You are overthinking it. Just tell her.
4 months

My sexuality and my kinks are exclusively around the big bellies, and nothing else

Stockylove:
I'm writing this because I don't really know how to name what I have, but as the title suggests, my sexuality and flaws are all about big bellies and nothing else. And I have a lot of problems with big bellies. I absolutely cannot be sexually attracted to a skinny or thin man. It's like my big belly fetish takes up so much space that it overshadows everything else. If it doesn't involve the belly, it often doesn't excite me. I sometimes wonder if I'm asexual or graysexual. Perhaps if this belly fetish and its procession of other oddities that accompany it had never germinated in my childhood brain. Maybe I would have had more standard sexual desires or maybe I would have remained potentially Ace. I don't know, but this "mono-obsession" with the belly means that I have a very low percentage chance of finding a person who has the right body and shares the same fetishes as me in reality. And that's part of why I signed up for sites like grommr. Because I have no choice. I think a lot of people reading this will recognize themselves. In any case, it’s not necessarily simple.


Good luck on Grommr. All my gay friends say they crazy over there.

But I feel you on the belly thing. Although I'm attracted to many things, big bellies are the sexiest to me. Nearly every guy I've gone after in the past 10 years has a big belly.

Hell, my partner knows if he wants to get me in the mood, all he has to do is lift up his shirt and wobble his belly. I'll be on him like white in rice.

That said, are you struggling to find someone?
4 months

My sexuality and my kinks are exclusively around the big bellies, and nothing else

Fat Dreams:
I can totally relate to your frustration and used to feel guilty about this but honestly everyone needs to find their own unique balance between attraction and compatibility. It's totally okay to have "musts" as long as you respect potential partners as human beings and let them make decisions about their bodies for themselves.

As for whether or not you're asexual/greysexual, no one can answer that for you. I've talked to two different therapists about this over the years about a similar issue myself, and one of them suggested I was asexual but the other one said I can't be because of my fetish. Idk. Either way, it may not be something you can change, and life is too short to try to guilt yourself out of finding happiness. I'm sure there are partners out there that are complementary to you in both personality and attraction.


Just wanna point out that your second therapist is unbelievably stupid and needs to educate themselves. Lotta aces participate in kink.
4 months

Why does every guy i show interest in want to lose weight all of a sudden?? (rant)

HueOrdner:
Sorry, I need to blow off some steam here:

Absolutely every guy I show interest in tells me he wants to lose weight. Because you gotta lose weight if a pretty girl shows interest in you, otherwise you'll lose her, right? Some say it immediately, some mention it after a few dates.
For some reason 30kg seems to be the magic number here. It's the amount every guy wants to lose. Though, sometimes it's 50kg too.

If I know the guy a little better I will tell him that I find him attractive the way he is and that he doesn't have to lose weight for me, but it doesn't do anything. Once I even told a guy straight out on the first date that I'm not attracted to skinny people, but it didn't change much.

Maybe the guys really are doing it for themselves and that would be absolutely fine (although sad for me, haha), but to me it seems like they are doing it out of insecurity.
At this point with some guys any activities that involve food like eating out or cooking together stop being fun because they keep complaining about how fat they are and how much they are eating. Often without changing anything. Or they start eating very little and count calories. Other guys might avoid activities that include food as much as possible.

This makes me feel bad like myself. I am very happy with my body and eating habits right now, but I struggled with an eating disorder almost 10 years ago and I feel like this kind of behavior triggers me. It makes me wonder if I am also too fat and should diet too. It's such an awful feeling.

I don't want to be with someone who is so negative. I want to be with someone who enjoys life and likes to indulge in its pleasures.
But I can't seem to find someone like that. Am I just attracting dreadful people? Or are 99% of fat men just incredibly insecure?? I just want to be with someone who is self-confident and has a positive outlook on life.

And it's not like I'm against a guy staying fit. I obviously want them to be as healthy as possible.
I like being active myself. I love to dance and go for long walks or hikes. And of course I would like to do these activities with my partner. But I would like them to stay chubby while being active. I sometimes wish it was different, but skinny or muscular is just not my type. I wanna be with a guy who is like a sumo wrestler. Someone who is fat but still strong and fit.


We don't talk about it as much since women have it worse, but men also deal with body insecurity, internalized fatphobia and societal pressure to look a certain way. Patriachy is a bitch.

A lot of men have been taught that no woman will want them if they can't "correctly" perform. As for fat men, many of them have either experienced or know someone who did them dirty just because they are fat. I have fat male friends who have told me horror stories about their romantic interests treating them like a fixer upper - even after reassuring them their size isn't an issue. It's sad since there are plenty of women who prefer, like, or don't mind bigger guys. But trauma makes you irrational and paranoid.

I remenber this one guy I liked. He was sweet, soft spoken, nerdy, and very fat. I was 100% into that and pursued him. He started losing weight as soon as I started flirting. Don't get me wrong, he was still hot to me. Yet I was disappointed when his belly was no longer straining at the buttons.

This is why I started going after guys into extreme weight gain. They don't lose weight when you show interest in them and love it when you make them fatter.
4 months