Bigdoug:
That’s exactly why I am not religious! These quotes cited by the OP depict extremely fat women in a very negative light and seemingly enjoy their cruel treatment. Mysoginistic bs as far as I am concerned. Goes right along with declaring gluttony a deadly sin. As a fat man and husband of a fat woman I find that very offensive!
Olga01:
Yes, but for me it's interesting not the fact that Amos hates these women, but the fact that they existed and that Northern Israel people loved them and pampered them. We have info about this fact only through Amos with his hatred.
Munchies:
That's not why he was mad. He was mad that they were taking food from the mouths of those without. This is a class and corruption issue.
Olga01:
He was mad really in literal sense of the word. Food consumption of elite cant " take food " from the mouths of common peoole. Even in egalitarian bands of hunters-gatherers of Magdalenian paleolitic Europe 20 000 years ago women could gain weight up to epic proportions. And there was no society in the world history where elite could be costy for main part of the people because of its food consumption.
Munchies:
*le deep sigh*
How about you stop talking about something you do not fully understand.
I have read Amos in full numerous times. I am very familiar with the text. Yes, there is misogyny about how he is addressing them. However, it is not the fatness itself that is the problem. He spells it out very plainly.
Olga01:
Oh oh yes, it is terrible terrible oppression with which the husbands of these women overburdened the poor laboring masses, in order to provide for these women food and wine! Of course, all we know that slim women and husbands of slim women can't overexploitate poor people, only fat ones and their husbands can!
If Amos would have ever meant anything you try to ascribe to him, he wouldn't mention fatness at all. In this case he would just express indignation for overexploitation of people by elite without any mentioning of body type of exploitators, as it is totally irrelevant to degree of exploitation. Moreover, in this case he would speak not about women but about men, because women were not property owners and could not exploitate people at all.
You can try to make any kind of communist or friend of the poor people of this religious antihedonistic fanatic, but it will be a useless attempt.
The same biblical prophets express very brightly that the vast masses of the people hated their ideas and their threats and mocked them. It is hard to reconcile this fact with the idea that Amos and company were great champions of poor laborers, oppressed by greedy upper classes.
Spoken once again like a person who cannot read.
Once again I ask what is the point of any of this? It did not add to anything. And it's clear you are not interesting in apologetics. And everyone agrees this passage is not in support of these fat women.