Can i point a few things out?

I've read carefully the post, but some things trouble me a bit. I hope by pointing out i will get responses that will clear things up.

If i understand correctly, from your last paragraph, the point in the end is how to keep people safe from abuse/people who are abusive. I dont think it matters too much if its in the context of the kink or not, because there are mental tools and methods that are helpful in recognizing abusive behavior regardless of context. They work the same both in and out of kinks. Which also means this should concern everyone who due to their role, identity, or place (among other things) can be subject to abuse in the context of interpersonal relationships, which is also by definition [i]the[i] vunerable group in this regard. Not just feedees and not just women / trans women. So, i think the focus on that is unecessarily limiting. This [i]should[i] be a conversation for more kinds of folks, and it wouldn't hurt the utility that feedees / women (&trans) can get out of it.

And yes, patriarchy exists which means it skews people so that men are more abusive and entitled than women (and in fact i think that patriarchy is why men tend towards being feeders), but thats not the only factor for what groups can be abusive! Narcissism is an other very strong one. And because anyone can be a narcissist and abuse others, anyone in any kind of interpersonal relationship can potentially be subject to that abuse!

Im a bit frustrated, because shouldn't that be blantantly obvious?

Having said that, im thinking that while you were writting your post, the idea of what the topic is in your mind, crystalized a lot (=from vague/burry it became clear) which means it gradually changed, so maybe thats why you wrote it like that?



The other thing i wanna point out has to do with how abuse and rape is percieved by people in general. Im not entierly sure about what i will say now. I dont have stronger evidence than my personal observations, but i also have nothing against this. This is potentially true, and if so, i think its importand to talk about that. But if anyone has evidence against this, i wanna hear it!

So, because of all the feminist strugles and the #MeToo movement, we (well... some of us at least) now have a significantly raised awareness about rape and how bad it is. This, as with every other kind of widespread awareness among a populus, in our current society, creates kind of 2 relevant groups of people, aside from the ones who remain ignorant. Those who actually [i]sufficiently[i] understand it, and can therefore use arguments for upholding it are the one group. The other one, is people who dont understand it sufficiently, and at the same time want to uphold it, which then forces them to hide behind morals because they dont have the arguments they need at hand. Statistically, most people fall into the second group (because of the differences between passive and active learning for example), which means that in general, people in our society tend to obscure their ignorance behind the blanket of morality. So, consequently, "rape" i think is like that. Its morally unacceptable. Which i agree with! I dont think that its something other than very bad. But, if im correct on this, because a lot of people uphold it as such with the blanket of morality, they fail to notice that things very relevant to rape, can also be quite destructive, for example abuse, which rape is basically a form of. And so, i think we tend a bit exessively to frame things as rape, and maybe that deteorates its utility because it makes it more vague and less clear, but thats not my point here. Im not trying to My point is that, i notice how a lot of people act as if abuse is somehow not as bad! And i think that's a bit hypocrytical to the expense of any productive conversation, which doesn't have room for people obscuring their ignorance behind morality.

I basically get the sense that people who try exessively to frame something as rape implicitly believe that, relative to rape, abuse is almost morally okay!

Exxesive here means that, in the context of arguments, those people will stick to the argument that "x" thing is rape, and with that will assert, only implicitly, that "x" thing is bad. And that is something that really frustrates me, not only because that means the assertion that "x" thing is bad is not being delivered *explicitly*, but it also gives an easy exit to rapists (who can argue "well.. Technically this was not a rape, so am i free to go?", usually towards a judge that is too eager to aknowledge that, only because the rapists is a "fellow male".


And those are my two points. What do you think? Are my points fair? Did i do a mistake?

Fair enough... I will try to retrieve that information but it might be difficult.

What are the details of streching one's stomach?

Like, how much can it strech in the long term? Does that have dangers? Etc.

Oooh yes! That plays out so well with all the dark things im into! Let me fantasize for a bit! 😂

I absolutely love the idea of a sugar momma feeder, especially if she is a death feeder! For starters she could afford to keep me into her house and actively discourage me from getting a job so that i will be financially dependent on her. Maybe she could also afford to stay with me almost all the time, so she can feed and fuck me litteraly 24/7.

But for me, the hottest thing about it, is that after she has made me severely addicted to all this, she will get to feed me to death as a reward of drowning me in so much pleasure!

However i do feel all that is not super relevant to sugar momma feeders, and the most relevant part, i think, would be the fact that... If *she* pays for food, and then offers it to me, i better eat it all! I wonder how well someone could abuse that to get me extremely full! 😄

*sight*

One thing you can do is make 1 or 2 huge sandwiches a day! Really big ones, like half a loaf of bread big!

I share this experience and i have very strong and mixed feelings on this. On one hand an addiction is dangerous, i know that. But on the other hand its so insanely hot! And then as the addiction grows stronger, its so hot to still give in fully and feed it even stronger that way.

But to go a step further, i think the reason we like that addiction is because we like the idea of completely unrestrained -reckless, even- hedonism.

The thing is what i described is going to be a problem when i need to articulate my fetishes to some hypothetical partner. I could describe just the fantasies, but that has its own problems.

After a quick look at muscle transformation artwork... Im still a bit troubled. But at this point, im more troubled with the articulation, which can be a phylosophical thing more than anything. I have one example i can give. I certainly have a sexual interest towards muscular women. The articulation problem comes here. Is it fair to label that interest per se as a fetish? There are some reasons i would avoid doing that. The interest in muscular women is there because i have this fantasy of being in the hands of someone so powerful i could not resist, etc. Which means its not necesary that i like muscular women on their own, a muscular figure on a partner, for me, serves into making the sub/dom dynamic more real, or more extreme, or whatever, right? So, shouldn't maybe the sub/dom thing be labeled as a fetish by itself, instead?

Then of course there are all sorts of arrangements. For example one could say that both are fetishes. Someone could even say that they both are just one fetish and the articulation is bad because in it, they are seperated when they shouldn't.

All that kind of makes it hard for me at least to answer a question of "is X thing a fetish"? (Which is similar to "Is X fetish a thing?"

Uhm, maybe its a bit easier to just think of all this as a big box with everything about sexuality, and the criteria for if a thing can be included in it would be "Something that alters how you'd wanna have sex"?

Edit: I hate it when some characters turn into an emoji... FF please change that... 🫠

You could go into more depth, but that's a good enough response! So, assuming from the title, i now have another question. What makes you think that what you just described is a fetish?

I mean, no doubt that its definetely something that makes you feel really good, and its actually good too, but where is any kind of fetishization in that? At least with how you described it so far, i really don’t see something that would make it a fetish per se.

What do you think?