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Pooling of knowledge, thats what you effectively try to do.

Anyways, litteraly nobody seems to be reasonable today, im tired of it, i will just link a few stuff i wanted to mention.

youtube.com/@doctorramani

youtube.com/@doctorramani

I hope these can be helpfull sources to the conversation.

Edit: The links dont display properly (bug?) but if you click they should work properly.
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Munchies:
Once again proving you still don't believe in consent. Explains your shitty take on rape earlier.


I think consent is one importand factor but as such, it has limits. For example in my decision to do write in here was informed by one other factor, in addittion to OP's request. I explained this above.

About my take on rape, i might be ignorant of things, but i haven’t actually seen my take criticised (and i mean that, merely starting that its a shitty take isn’t really productive criticism)

There have been some cis men in this thread with positive additions to this thread. None of those post have been yours. If anything, you are an excellent example as to why women and trans people can't have nice things.


I need to understand how you made that judgement in order to consider it seriously, because right now this im suspicious you're arguing with this in bad faith.

So far, i've pointed/criticised 2 things about OP's articulation, and i also have the advice that one needs to be interogative in order to stay safe. I think those are positive contributions! And i hope to build upon them some more! O.o
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Stuffytummywriter:
see above


Do you refer to the bellow?

Stuffytummywriter:
...
they needed to dissect and argue every single one of OPs word choices. who'd have thought
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Stuffytummywriter:
enas you really lack self awareness

Enas:
Can you explain more, if you'd like? For example, what makes you think that? How do you think that affects what i say (or how i act)?


Stuffytummywriter:
oh hello, a thread where OP specifically asked cis men to take a step back and listen full of men deciding they needed to dissect and argue every single one of OPs word choices. who'd have thought

Bxbeans:
🤣 Who'da thunk 🤦‍♀️ffs

Stuffytummywriter:
thats how


I know that OP asked cis men to step back, and i did the oposite, i basically steped forward. I did it because i think i have valuable information to contribute to the conversation, and i generally choose to behave in ethical ways. I understand that doing that is better for the conversation than to respect what OP asked.
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Stuffytummywriter:
enas you really lack self awareness


Can you explain more, if you'd like? For example, what makes you think that? How do you think that affects what i say (or how i act)?
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Urchie:
You're a scumbag


What do you mean?
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Urchie:
Leave it to enas to ruin a women's space


Im not ruining anything. Some of you just get uncomfortable, i believe because im assertive, which if anything is good for the conversation.
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ArcticVixen:
Unfortunately, you have guys like that who mask themselves as "nice" to lure in victims. I've been groomed by a man in his forties who was those macho types and acted nice at first.


Yes. And if i am to work towards a solution to that i would say, be interogative! It might very well be something that people aren't very comfortable with doing, but i think its the only solution to that. :/


Even when you sent me your horny messages in a DM on my old account I thought beforehand you wanted to have a casual conversation instead of that. It's sometimes hard to recognize red flags when predators hide them very well.


That wasn't kind of me, though i remember there was unclear communication on what you were not okay with. I really should have asked follow up questions to clear that up, however.

Having said that, its not a good example. Since hornyness doesnt go away on will, the question then becomes what does one do about it. And someone might hide it as an attempt to not shove it into the other person's faces, thats not predatory. Putting up a "nice person" facade to lure people in, is.

We could definetely have a casual conversation, also!! (See the third paragraph on my profile description! XD)
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Munchies:
Yes. You are putting the blame of men's poor behavior onto women. Now knock it off. The more you keep protesting, the dumber and more malicious you look. Do us both a favor and stop it.


You're ignoring everything i said and make assumptions based on that ignorance. I can't deal with this shit...
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Stuffytummywriter:
still, props for trying! it's important!

The way to go i feel, if you have the energy to try again, is a discord server or some such with the ability to moderate who joins and/or who stays.

Men, much like small children, have not yet learned to self-regulate, so they need strict and impermeable barriers. Some will eventually learn and won't need the barriers anymore. They'll realise they can play with the 1000000 other toys available to them instead of throwing a tantrum over the one that they can't have right now. Or make their own toy just for themselves if they are jealous, instead of destroying the one someone else made.

Really really tired of men not respecting my boundaries and then acting offended when i say sth

Munchies:
The trans men tend to get it what with growing up as AFAB. Enbies tend to get it as well.

One thing that frustrates me is the whole "Boys will be boys" mindset. It absolves men of their agency to be better.

And they can be better. I've seen it. It makes the ones that choose not to be better look terrible.

Enas:
Its not just the "boys will be boys" but the entier culture that just screams narcissism all the time. Even the women who themselves say "I want a bad boy" are helping perpertuate this

ArcticVixen:
I think you are misinterpreting the expression. "Bad boy" is a Western (usually American) trope where a guy in a piece of media is rebellious and seems cool. Such as the characters in the musical Grease. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_boy_archetype

No woman wants to be in a abusive relationship.


There is no problem in clasifying even the Nazis as "bad boys", based on what the archetype entails. The two are not contradictory in any way. They posed as rebelious (note the word posed) and, at least in their time, many people considered them as very cool.

And i dont think there is someone who wants to be in an abusive relationship, but it might be the case that people dont always recognize abusive behavior as such, at least not until its too late and they are already trapped.
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