Ahh, John Oliver is fantastic. I watched the first one and I now i get to be angry at pharma all over again.

I guess you're right; doctors are kinda stuck as the middle-man here too. Pressure from phara companies, hospital administration, insurance, and more all are contributing to these issues and it's not fair to blame the doctors.

It would help too if primary care physicians were given more time with each patient--I remember starting care last week and talking about potential ADHD symptoms, and I walked out with a prescription for Adderall after a 6 question survey he seemed to pull from the internet. I would have preferred a diagnosis and a referral to specialist; instead I have amphetamine. Not to say I don't think it might be helpful for my case; but it some more time to talk about options seems like it could go a long way to avoid prescribing potentially addictive drugs.

Still, I think there are a lot of parallels. Language like "it changed my life" which Purdue used to market opioids is exactly the kind of thing that I hear in weight loss ads--and I'm sure we have all heard the "Oh, oh, oh, Ozempic!" commercial.

...Imagine heroin or other opiods being prescribed for weight loss.

I actually hadn't realized how Ozempic was supposed to be the last line of defense for diabetics; I knew the off-label use was causing shortages but... wow.

Isn't the Hippocratic oath supposed to prevent this sort of thing? Obviously it's not a binding legal oath, but...

This reeks a bit of the same stink around the opioid epidemic.

What can I do to make eating a lot as comfortable as possible for my partner?

A new partner of mine is going to be over for the weekend, and they've expressed interest in eating a ton during their stay. I've told them about my kink and made certain they understand what I'm getting out of it, and they'll be sure to communicate boundaries and expectations over the weekend as well.

We're not aiming for particularly fattening food (in general we're both trying to eat healthy, and this will be a special occasion for them as they're losing weight for health reasons).

I'm also not worried about keeping them absolutely stuffed to the brim (though if that's what they end up wanting to do, I'll happily oblige).

I'm more looking for tips for making eating/digestion/comfort/aftercare as enjoyable as possible. Any advice?

I doubt it will be. Many of the articles about this I've read have statements from the manufacturers of Ozempic its ilk which show enthusiasm for the potential market of weight loss drugs. They see it, as you indicate, as a money-making scheme.

What's more, I fear that the potential negative sentiment won't be a mere indirect cause of these drugs becoming available to the public.

As the article you shared indicates, corporations are more than happy to shell out a lot of money in advertising campaigns to shift public sentiment to be favorable to their product.

We are seeing something similar with the rise of SUVs in the US and now in other countries thanks to a shift in perception that they are safer (despite the exact opposite being true, with SUVs being held to lower safety regulations than other vehicles), as this video and its sources show:


The nightmare scenario is the resurgence of heroin chic (which I've read has started already) and the overt demonization of fat and fat appreciators fueled by the immense wealth available to the pharmaceutical industry.

Frankly it's insane that drug companies can have commercials and pay for advertisement in the US...

Here is a collection of articles covering the messy new frontier of Ozempic and similar drugs.

getpocket.com/collections/unpacking-the-ozempic-craze

I don't have a lot of places to talk candidly about a topic like this, and certainly not where I can talk about it's effect on feederism and its perception, if any.

The first thing I want to talk about is that these drugs are *expensive*. They can only be afforded the by the wealthy right now. On one hand, if this continues to be the case even as availability and variety grows, I worry that the feedback loop of conventional attractiveness in positions of wealth and influence will only grow.

Ideally, however, the cost of these drugs will go down to support the needs of anyone who wants or needs them. Don't get me wrong; this isn't about the moral or medical superiority of a thin body or something like that. I just think that people should have the freedom to choose their body type, and those who struggle with diet or exercise as a form of weight loss could find these drugs quite liberating, to say nothing of the benefit to those with type 2 diabetes.

That said, in a hypothetical world where a weight loss drug is widely available, where do you think that will leave feedists or even just people who don't care about whether they are thin or fat?

In many ways, I fear that the current biases against fat people would be exacerbated in a world where being fat was seen as an overt choice not to "treat a disease" even more than it is today.

And while I've been lucky enough to find two partners who don't think feeders are inherently predatory creeps--including one who is open to me feeding them once in a while despite not being part of the community--I can't help but wonder if mainstream perception of feeders would be damaged by an emphasized perception that we get off on inflicting preventable harm on others. If everyone around me is thin except my partner, that feels like it would start to raise questions.

I don't think this hypothetical future is imminent--even ignoring their cost, Ozempic and its cousins have quite the list of uncomfortable side effects. And who knows--maybe there's some positive to fat acceptance and appreciation to be found here, in a world where body weight becomes a choice. Indeed, maybe this focus on developing new drugs might yield a treatment that alleviates the health issues of being fat without eliminating fat itself.

But it's still an interesting discussion to have, so I'd like to ask for your thoughts on the matter.

Speaking with a counselor or therapist will help you find the answers you are looking for. As you have found, trying to ignore this part of you isn't likely to help you manage the difficulties that you face. They might not have the specific expertise to deal speak about feederism directly, but managing libido and impulses in a healthy manner is precisely the kind of thing they can help with.

Not all mental health professionals are the same, so you should make sure to seek one who lists sex or relationships as a field of specialization. Even then, their methods for helping you will vary as much as their personalities.

If I had to guess what they would say, however, it's that they will confront you about whether feederism is something you really want to leave behind completely, or if what you're looking for is a way to reconcile your preferences with what is socially acceptable.

You seem to be leaning toward "fixing yourself to meet society's expectations." Most therapists I've heard of would steer you away from this kind of thinking. Rather, they would encourage you to find ways to enjoy your preferences in ways that don't conflict with your other priorities, finding a balance between your kink/fetish and your social/professional obligations. I am not a therapist, but the therapy I have participated in suggests that the enemy isn't your unprompted desires or intrusive thoughts, but the lack of acceptance you have for yourself and what makes you unique.

There are many reasons people might react poorly first to a confession and then to an assurance that your feelings have evaporated. Without knowing the details--it's not my business and even what you *can* tell me will lack perfect insight into her thought process--it's hard to pin one down. So I'll just say this.

At this point, the best thing you can do in your situation is to take care of yourself. Don't blame yourself for the end of the friendship, and don't read into any of her behavior. It's not your responsibility to fix the relationship, nor is she guaranteed to respond favorably to any such attempts if you do make them.

Focus on what you can do to find or make your own happiness independently of this friendship. Distract yourself, go to counseling, find greener pastures, realize this too shall pass, or make it your choice to distance yourself from this person--whatever makes it easier to move forward, do that.

Moving on from the end of a relationship of any kind is about being open to what comes next. Whether that means getting to go your own way independently for a while, being in a better place for the relationship to resume once tempers have cooled, or seeing an opportunity to find or foster a new relationship elsewhere is up to you.

I admit I made an assumption that we were already on the same page about feederism and were talking about the philosophical categorization of being a feeder/fat admirerer as a whole. You can disregard my original post.

I would say yes, they are not mutually exclusive. Certainly if someone is helping their partner gain weight, they must both appreciate fat and be feeding them.

The distinction is ultimately meaningless except as shorthand and can change over time. Someone can start out enjoying larger figures (a fat admirer) and later discover they also like enabling further weight gain (a feeder). Someone can start out liking people with round bellies from overindulgence and hoping to encourage such displays of gluttony (a feeder) and later come to discover they also like the extra fat in their partner which comes as a consequence (a fat admirer).

Some fat admirerers don't want to see their partners gain more weight and food as a part of intimacy isn't part of what arouses them. Some feeders prefer skinnier partners since they love seeing a flat belly become round every time, something that can get lost as someone gains weight.

As is often the case with sexuality, strict categories break down when you look at individuals.

What motivates your question? Are you trying to pick one to mark on online profiles?

If you're asking about how you would be categorized on websites like this, I'd say fat appreciator.