I thought so too, but apparently it's a hotly debated topic, e.g.: . I'm no expert, and am not going to weigh in on whether he existed or not; but I'd say the jury is out.

I don't claim to have theological credentials; if that's your criterion for listening to my argument, please ignore what I have to say.

Honestly, I have grave doubts whether Jesus existed at all. But if he did, and the bible is correct:

Just because Jesus's enemies said something doesn't mean it's false. And it IS true that Jesus was a friend of publicans and sinners, right? Or sinners, at least. So perhaps they were telling the truth about the gluttony. That's all I'm trying to say.

I'm not twisting any words or taking anything out of context.

Are you too embarrassed to eat as much as you need to in front of your friends?

No...there was a hyperlink in my initial post, but I guess it wasn't obvious! Here you go:

Mel's

4th & Mission
OPEN SINCE: NOVEMBER 20, 2000
The Mission Street Mel's is situated in the heart of SoMa, one of San Francisco's most exciting neighborhoods. We are right across the street from the Sony Metreon, a 250,000 square-foot complex filled with shopping and entertainment destinations including a 15-screen cinema and the West Coast's largest IMAX theatre. Also nearby is the Moscone Center, a conference center and major trade show host that occupies three city blocks. Those wishing to tap into San Francisco's rich cultural offerings won't be disappointed either, as Mel's makes a perfect stop-off after an afternoon spent exploring the Museum of Modern Art or the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts. The kids can pick up one of our children's meals served in a Mel's classic car before heading off to Zeum or the ice-skating rink at the nearby children's park.

Phone Numbers Restaurant: (415) 227 - 0793
To-Go: (415) 227 - 4477
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Hours Sunday - Thursday: 6 AM - Midnight
Friday - Saturday: 6 AM - 3 AM
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GG transit 10, 70, 80, 72, 73, 76
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Oh yeah, I'm quite aware of the thing...just didn't know there was a term for it.

Never heard of that...great term!

According to Dan Savage, the way a lot of couples work this out is the man pretends he doesn't look at porn, and the woman pretends to believe him!

Personally I find that just as bad.

Yes, no doubt, but some of their statements may have been true, right? It's not solid evidence that Jesus was a glutton, but who knows?

Comeback:

"Too bad there's no mind-your-own-business surgery."