Weight loss drugs and their implications

Here is a collection of articles covering the messy new frontier of Ozempic and similar drugs.

getpocket.com/collections/unpacking-the-ozempic-craze

I don't have a lot of places to talk candidly about a topic like this, and certainly not where I can talk about it's effect on feederism and its perception, if any.

The first thing I want to talk about is that these drugs are *expensive*. They can only be afforded the by the wealthy right now. On one hand, if this continues to be the case even as availability and variety grows, I worry that the feedback loop of conventional attractiveness in positions of wealth and influence will only grow.

Ideally, however, the cost of these drugs will go down to support the needs of anyone who wants or needs them. Don't get me wrong; this isn't about the moral or medical superiority of a thin body or something like that. I just think that people should have the freedom to choose their body type, and those who struggle with diet or exercise as a form of weight loss could find these drugs quite liberating, to say nothing of the benefit to those with type 2 diabetes.

That said, in a hypothetical world where a weight loss drug is widely available, where do you think that will leave feedists or even just people who don't care about whether they are thin or fat?

In many ways, I fear that the current biases against fat people would be exacerbated in a world where being fat was seen as an overt choice not to "treat a disease" even more than it is today.

And while I've been lucky enough to find two partners who don't think feeders are inherently predatory creeps--including one who is open to me feeding them once in a while despite not being part of the community--I can't help but wonder if mainstream perception of feeders would be damaged by an emphasized perception that we get off on inflicting preventable harm on others. If everyone around me is thin except my partner, that feels like it would start to raise questions.

I don't think this hypothetical future is imminent--even ignoring their cost, Ozempic and its cousins have quite the list of uncomfortable side effects. And who knows--maybe there's some positive to fat acceptance and appreciation to be found here, in a world where body weight becomes a choice. Indeed, maybe this focus on developing new drugs might yield a treatment that alleviates the health issues of being fat without eliminating fat itself.

But it's still an interesting discussion to have, so I'd like to ask for your thoughts on the matter.
2 years

Is there a way to get rid of this fetish?

Reflection Of Perfection:
No. It's a part of you.

You choose to indulge it by being here

Boomerang:
I know. I try to ignore it but I always find myself here. hence my profile name


Speaking with a counselor or therapist will help you find the answers you are looking for. As you have found, trying to ignore this part of you isn't likely to help you manage the difficulties that you face. They might not have the specific expertise to deal speak about feederism directly, but managing libido and impulses in a healthy manner is precisely the kind of thing they can help with.

Not all mental health professionals are the same, so you should make sure to seek one who lists sex or relationships as a field of specialization. Even then, their methods for helping you will vary as much as their personalities.

If I had to guess what they would say, however, it's that they will confront you about whether feederism is something you really want to leave behind completely, or if what you're looking for is a way to reconcile your preferences with what is socially acceptable.

You seem to be leaning toward "fixing yourself to meet society's expectations." Most therapists I've heard of would steer you away from this kind of thinking. Rather, they would encourage you to find ways to enjoy your preferences in ways that don't conflict with your other priorities, finding a balance between your kink/fetish and your social/professional obligations. I am not a therapist, but the therapy I have participated in suggests that the enemy isn't your unprompted desires or intrusive thoughts, but the lack of acceptance you have for yourself and what makes you unique.
2 years

I lost my best friend because of feedism. thoughts?

Freddii:
So I’ve been bestfiends with this girl for 3 years and she knew about my kink (I’m a feedee). Recently I told her that I have feelings for her and she said that it makes her uncomfortable and stopped being friends with me. What should I do now? Is she in the right? I feel awful.

Munchies:
From what you described, I don't think your kink was the issue. It seems more that you confessed to her than anything.

That being said, the fact that you said you guys were best friends implies there's much more to the story.

Freddii:
She said it is the issue

PolyPinoyPuppy:
With that in mind, did you bring feederism up in conjunction with your confession, or was it something she attached to it herself?

Regardless, I'm sorry. It's hard losing your friend in the best of circumstances. For it to be tied to something as personal as feederism, which many people already have to be in the closet about, adds to the agony.

I would hope that your friendship was strong enough to recover after some time. But that won't happen on its own. Unless she's gone no contact with you, there is still a possibility to find some sort of understanding that you value her friendship more than you would ever value kink.

Freddii:
I did not bring it up, and when we were friends she would often joke about my kink so I didn’t expect it to make her that uncomfortable, but I didn’t even think about it when I confessed. I also told her that I’m not expecting her to get into relationship with me. And when we had a fight I told her that she doesn’t need to worry, that I don’t have feelings hor her anymore and that also made her angry, so I don’t know 😭. And thank you


There are many reasons people might react poorly first to a confession and then to an assurance that your feelings have evaporated. Without knowing the details--it's not my business and even what you *can* tell me will lack perfect insight into her thought process--it's hard to pin one down. So I'll just say this.

At this point, the best thing you can do in your situation is to take care of yourself. Don't blame yourself for the end of the friendship, and don't read into any of her behavior. It's not your responsibility to fix the relationship, nor is she guaranteed to respond favorably to any such attempts if you do make them.

Focus on what you can do to find or make your own happiness independently of this friendship. Distract yourself, go to counseling, find greener pastures, realize this too shall pass, or make it your choice to distance yourself from this person--whatever makes it easier to move forward, do that.

Moving on from the end of a relationship of any kind is about being open to what comes next. Whether that means getting to go your own way independently for a while, being in a better place for the relationship to resume once tempers have cooled, or seeing an opportunity to find or foster a new relationship elsewhere is up to you.
2 years

What is the category or name of the situations which arouse me?

I admit I made an assumption that we were already on the same page about feederism and were talking about the philosophical categorization of being a feeder/fat admirerer as a whole. You can disregard my original post.
2 years

What is the category or name of the situations which arouse me?

PolyPinoyPuppy:
If you're asking about how you would be categorized on websites like this, I'd say fat appreciator.

Nijjrtman8:
Why a fat appreciator and not a feeder?
I would not mind fattening her myself

Munchies:
It is possible to be both. A feeder take an active role the the feedee's weight gain. An FA (fat admirer) takes a more passive interest. They also may or may not want their partner to gain weight

Nijjrtman8:
Can you be an FA and a Feeder at the same time? How would that work


I would say yes, they are not mutually exclusive. Certainly if someone is helping their partner gain weight, they must both appreciate fat and be feeding them.

The distinction is ultimately meaningless except as shorthand and can change over time. Someone can start out enjoying larger figures (a fat admirer) and later discover they also like enabling further weight gain (a feeder). Someone can start out liking people with round bellies from overindulgence and hoping to encourage such displays of gluttony (a feeder) and later come to discover they also like the extra fat in their partner which comes as a consequence (a fat admirer).

Some fat admirerers don't want to see their partners gain more weight and food as a part of intimacy isn't part of what arouses them. Some feeders prefer skinnier partners since they love seeing a flat belly become round every time, something that can get lost as someone gains weight.

As is often the case with sexuality, strict categories break down when you look at individuals.

What motivates your question? Are you trying to pick one to mark on online profiles?
2 years

What is the category or name of the situations which arouse me?

PolyPinoyPuppy:
Exhibitionism, in a way? I suppose it's more akin to voyeurism since you aren't the one physically exposed to the public's attention, but kink muddies the distinction when you've helped contribute to that which is being exhibited.

Nijjrtman8:
Could you be more explicit? Also what kink are you talking about?
To specify nothing other than what I've said in the opening post can get me aroused


If you're asking about how you would be categorized on websites like this, I'd say fat appreciator.
2 years

I lost my best friend because of feedism. thoughts?

Freddii:
So I’ve been bestfiends with this girl for 3 years and she knew about my kink (I’m a feedee). Recently I told her that I have feelings for her and she said that it makes her uncomfortable and stopped being friends with me. What should I do now? Is she in the right? I feel awful.

Munchies:
From what you described, I don't think your kink was the issue. It seems more that you confessed to her than anything.

That being said, the fact that you said you guys were best friends implies there's much more to the story.

Freddii:
She said it is the issue


With that in mind, did you bring feederism up in conjunction with your confession, or was it something she attached to it herself?

Regardless, I'm sorry. It's hard losing your friend in the best of circumstances. For it to be tied to something as personal as feederism, which many people already have to be in the closet about, adds to the agony.

I would hope that your friendship was strong enough to recover after some time. But that won't happen on its own. Unless she's gone no contact with you, there is still a possibility to find some sort of understanding that you value her friendship more than you would ever value kink.
2 years

What is the category or name of the situations which arouse me?

Exhibitionism, in a way? I suppose it's more akin to voyeurism since you aren't the one physically exposed to the public's attention, but kink muddies the distinction when you've helped contribute to that which is being exhibited.
2 years

Help me make a grocery list for gf

If her goal is to gain weight, anything she can snack on between meals will go a long way, and anything that she can add onto those snacks will be even better. Pita chips are good. Chips with hummus or bean dips are better. Pretzels are good. Peanut butter on pretzels are better.

Really though, more of anything she seems to enjoy a lot and can never seem to restrain herself around is a good choice.
2 years

Polygon's critique of the whale

PolyPinoyPuppy:
Quite a scathing review of the movie. Things like this make me wonder if we'll ever see fat celebrated or even just accepted in our culture.

www.polygon.com/reviews/23351261/the-whale-review-brendan-fraser

Reflection Of Perfection:
I can answer that. No, and it never will be accepted.

Fat people in Hollywood are supposed to be the comic relief. Jackie Gleason, Kevin Smith and Chris Farley are supposed to fall down and fart. Dale The Whale from Monk and Aunt Marge from Harry Potter are supposed to be laughed at. Roseanne, Pam Ferris and Dawn French are supposed to get stuck in chairs and have their shirt buttons fly off and knock people out with them. I've already ranted in the past about how sitcom fat guys are married to smoking hot wives but you never see the fat lead actress married to Chris Momoa or Chris Evans.

The only movie that ever came close to acceptance was The Heat. Why? Melissa McCarthy's weight was never mentioned once, that's about as good as its gonna get. Otherwise show me a movie or TV show where Chrissy Metz is making out with Bill Skaarsgard....you can't because it ain't happening. So when it comes to Brendan Frasier in a fat suit as "Whale" I totally expected the "ew fat ppl" motif from reviewers.

I'll review it myself for my own site. At least I'll judge it for the story, not the size of Frasier's character.


I need to clarify that the reviewer from Polygon isn't saying "ew fat ppl", she's saying that the movie itself is flawed for peddling the "ew fat ppl" motif.
2 years