I know what you mean, though I was that person for years, so let me briefly speak in her defense. When you have conflicting desires, they are hard to reconcile. Especially if one is psychologically deep (like eating and/or gaining) and the other is socially intense (like fatphobia and the insistence that thin is the only desirable size).

Anyway, point is, she's living in a difficult place. So maybe you could cut her a little slack? Just a thought...

Only a very few people have voted on you, Booty. It's statistically insignificant. I'm talking about the people who have 70 fake votes and a few reals...

I honestly didn't mean to sound like I was 'jumping all over what you said', joe, but for what it's worth, in response to your last post:

a. I'm often hairier than my lovers--ethnic difference.

b. I think men having to shave is every bit as stupid as women having to shave. (And while I think my legs look better hairless, I really like men with facial hair.)

e. if you think shaving your face is like trying to cut down a Douglas Fir, let me just point out--I have more hair on my legs, and coarser, than many men's facial hair. (Though I'm guessing not yours, which is cool!)

I think your final point is the important one. Bodies are bodies, and preferences are preferences. No need to express our distaste--just our tastes.

xJ

Interesting position, joe. Hair on women is the way we naturally are, too. Does that mean I can stop waxing (and yes, it hurts like hell, especially in the beginning), shaving (which I have to do twice a week to look decent), and using depilatory (which smells awful, makes a mess, and takes too long) on my legs and underarms?

I think it would be amazing and wonderful if we could accept each other's bodies as they come, but I'm not putting money on it.

I'm with Pursy. I absolutely adore hairy guys, even to the point of back hair. I come from an ethnic group and family with lots of body hair, so maybe that's part of it. But whatever the reason, I love it--it's wonderful to play with! And like Pursy says, all about the man thing. But I also like facial hair. So I guess I'm pretty consistent...

Yeah, the real/fake meter is a different matter than when people talk about fakes in threads.

People misuse the meter to 'get at' people whom they think have been unpleasant or insulting in some way, often (I think) in chat. This is completely unethical, I think, but people do it.

It doesn't matter, because real and decent people never get more than a couple of such votes. In my humble opinion, most people who have seriously high proportions of fake votes are people I suspect of being fake, too.

Fake, in the second sense, is about people who say they're 13, weigh 700 lbs, and are being fed by their mother. Or they gained 300 lbs in a year. Or they're using pics of famous ssbbw models, and want to chat with you about the problems of gas that 'we' share. You get the idea.

Sorry to be snarky, but we need to keep the two different issues clear of each other, so I used some examples I've run into. If any of those people were real, I apologize...all kinds of crazy things are, of course, possible.

Juicy

I'm curious, TGF, what makes you think people are calling honest people fakes?

If you mean the real/fake meter, that's a whole other question. But what people call fake here, usually, is someone saying they're a 600 lb fat woman when they're actually a 150 lb guy.

Since it's a fantasy site, the lines are blurry all over the place. But my impression is that most members would prefer role players to declare themselves as such.

Sorry to add to the confusion, perhaps,
Juicy