Fantasy Feeder

My girlfriend keeps getting fatter

English Feeder:
My partner is in a wheelchair. But it was something she wanted years before it became necessary.
She enjoys me pushing her and taking her to restaurants and public places. We live in England and disabled access is available everywhere. Not that we use public transport but buses can lower there suspension. ( A few exceptions old buildings ) She has a made to measure bariatric wheelchair. We have found that the general public and staff are always helpful and accommodating. Holding doors. Finding suitable access. But regarding the general thread there are several ways of looking at it. If i was not accommodating in my partner's need for a wheelchair would she have chosen to loose mobility to where she needs a wheelchair? I have on occasion gone to the pub ( i like a ale ) i have had enough ready to leave a mate will say don't go yet let me get you another pint. It leads to what we call a session.I end up having a curry or Chinese maybe a kebab on the way home. End up getting home early hours. Wake up with a thick head. Was it my mates fault??? No....
Did i have a good night? Actually yes
If you apply that to the current thread everything is ok. We don't know the personal dynamics of the relationship. But i do agree there could be red flags. Everything in life is fine provided it's by mutual consent.

You didn't read the thread either.

The issue is not "fattening your partner so much they need a wheelchair." If both you and your partner have had open, honest conversations with enthusiastic consent on both ends, I don't care. You do you boo.

The issue is he did not do that with her. He made is extremely clear that he "convinced" her to do this. She did not want to do this. He's been subtilty manipulating her until she made her peace with her circumstances.

I'm not looking for subtext. I am reading exactly what he said. I am taking this man at his word without adding or subtracting anything that he's said.

Don't defend people just because you are trying put on a shoe that doesn't fit you. It ain't a cute look.

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1 week 5/10 thousand calories

Morbidly A Beast:
people vastly underestimate how many calories they need to maintain their weight, let alone gain weight 5k calories a day is like slight weight gain considering you need 3800 or so just to maintain your weight depending how active you are. Bigger bodies need more calories. It’s why bears hibernate

I met my partner when he was 417. He ate about 3-4 kcal a day. This is on top of having weight loss surgery several years ago, getting down to the 200s, before purposefully regaining everything he lost and then some.

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1 week 5/10 thousand calories

Gainingdream:
is it useful to eat 5-10 thousand calories a day for 1 week? and how much weight would you gain?

It's not useful at all to do that.

Mind you that it's possible. But you have to train your stomach to handle that much food. Plus, you'd struggle to eat less after the week is over.

On top of that, the weight might not stick. When my partner decided to lose weight after reaching 500 lbs, he lost 100 of those pounds just by eating enough for 2 people rather than eating enough for 5.

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Light exercise?

Thiccbell:
Oh no the forbidden word.
Well, I do walks every so often but recently due to the weather, not so much. I have been made aware that my normal breathing is too heavy, which makes me a bit worried I'm not even half the size I wish I could be so having this issue so soon is linda scary.

I'm not here for the long run but still, I can't help but be a bit concerned. I don't smoke, nor drink alcohol. But the fact that I'm already breathing so heavily when I want to gain double of what I am right now, doesn't seem feasible.

Sure, I expect to have to get CPAP or something down the line, but not this soon!

But the thing is, movement and exercise for me is just unfun, and I can't keep a workout routine if I don't enjoy it.

So I am wondering if there's some light stuff I can do every so often to improve my health, breathing, and whatnot, so that I am not struggling already at 200lbs when I would like to have a goal of 350 or 400. Any suggestions?

Looking at your pictures, it looks like you have a lot of visceral fat. It's likely it's pushing against against your lungs.

The good news is that your body burns visceral fat before anything else. So a high calorie diet paired with less junk food and exercise should help in that regard.

Why don't you try dancing? You don't even need to be good. Put some some music and bee bop when no one is watching.

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Squirrelscanbeblue:
Increased dairy consumption has been linked to a lower risk of T2DM. The protective role of dairy foods in the development of T2DM is thought to be largely attributable to dairy nutrients, one of them being dairy protein. There is considerable evidence that milk proteins increase the postprandial insulin response and lower the postprandial blood glucose response in both healthy subjects and patients with T2DM

Eh I'm betting on it raising insulin because it cam turn a baby calf into a 400lb animal

What are you even arguing? The more I talk to you, the more I am convinced you, unfortunately, sustained a TBI at some point.

No one is saying that milk and carbs won't help you gain weight. The issue is thinking it will protect you from diabetes. And the more we talk, the more it's clear that you do not understand nutrition or biology.

1. The evidence of dairy decreasing the risk for diabetes is conflicting.

2. Those that indicate it decreases the risk so it only decreases it by 9%.

3. Milk is a complex liquid with many ingredients. It has both carbs and simple sugar. As such, a diabetic with low blood sugar can drink milk to raise it. A diabetic with high blood sugar should avoid it as it WILL make things worse.

4. Increased insulin does not protect you from diabetes. It may lower your blood glucose levels in the short term, but it leads to insulin resistance in the long term.

5. A diet with lot of dairy and carbs will help you gain weight, but it cannot protect you from diabetes.

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Squirrelscanbeblue:
However, research shows that consuming dairy consistently triggers disproportionately high insulin surges, given its carbohydrate load — by a factor of 3-6 times, according to a study of healthy subjects.

Baby girl, what are you doing at this point? What are you hoping to achieve?

You started out talking about how dairy prevents you from getting diabetes - or at least reduces your risk. And now you are talking about how it causes high insulin surges.

That's not a good thing.

Talk to any diabetic, and they will tell you that high insulin levels are bad. It's not like the extra insulin hangs out in your body to counter all the carbs you're eating. If it happens enough, you end up with insulin resistance.

Don't go out of your way to spike your insulin levels in hopes of avoiding diabetes. This is actually how you get diabetes.

Bless your heart.

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Squirrelscanbeblue:
I suppose you suggest weight loss as your idea?

Nah, fam. I'm saying that if you think you can avoid diabetes by drinking milk and eating carbs before bed, you are sorely mistaken.

I've been dealing with type 2 diabetes all my life (got down to pre-diabetes at this point), and I have a background in biology. I'm an ex-gainer turned feeder who has had several feedees and helped various playmates get fat safely. I know what works, what doesn't, and why.

This is not it, fam.

This will not provide you with any special protection, and it isn't inherently healthy or low-risk. This is not to say it's the worst thing in the world, but it is on par with those copper bracelets people get to soothe arthritis pain.

It won't kill ya, but it's not making you healthy, either.

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Squirrelscanbeblue:
From webmd

"Consuming dairy foods within a balanced diet can help lower risk for T2D. "

Or dunno I spose you could advocate weight loss on a gaining forum

Smh. The data on dairy preventing diabetes is conflicting. Some studies show that it decreases the risk. Others show an increase. It isn't very well understood at this point.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8026335/

diabetes.co.uk/food/milk-and-diabetes.html

medicine.washu.edu/news/formula-made-cows-milk-not-increase-diabetes-risk/

healthenews.mcgill.ca/does-dairy-product-consumption-influence-the-risk-of-diabetes/

As you can see, the evidence is conflicting on whether drinking milk helps prevent diabetes. And those that do reflect it only show a 9% risk reduction.

9%

You have better results buy walking, which decreases your risk by 39%.

That said, the consensus is that drinking milk in moderation is good.

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Squirrelscanbeblue:
Milk raises insulin. Insulin is used by the body to turn carbs into fat, raising the levels means more carbs get turned into fat. Insulin promotes growth in general, it works wonders on baby calves. Diabetics occasionally require erogenous Insulin to clear their blood of sugar, sugar that is then metabolized as fat.

Where in the world are you getting your research from?

Yes, dairy causes mild insulin spikes.

Mild.

If you consume reasonable amounts of dairy and carbs, you will not experience any health issues. However, this does not mean consuming this will prevent you from having diabetes.

And if it was enough to spike your insulin levels significantly, that's not good either. If anything, it will increase your risk of diabetes. Ever heard of insulin resistance?

If you eat too many carbs, your body will increase your insulin levels to cope. This makes your body less sensitive to insulin and increases your risk of diabetes.

So, no. Carbs and milk are not going to save you from diabetes.

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Squirrelscanbeblue:
Also I said milk prevents diabetes, not causes it

You are missing the point. It doesn't prevent it. It doesn't cause it, either. At most, it can exacerbate existing diabetes, but that is it.

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