Arame:
Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died from being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting take on this topic, very valid points. But with Lizzo’s case her reputation has already been skewed by the allegations of her body shaming her own backup dancers, then with the weight loss then people got bad because of the somewhat hypocrisy.

I have also seen a similar story with Adele when she lost the weight even with being a voice towards being a positive influence for being more curvier at the time.

And I can see why because they try to preach about embracing imperfections and saying to not worry about changing to be skinny to met societal standards… and then when they lose the weight; that’s when people be like “WTF I thought you were confident?”. It seems like it’s a lot more tricky when it comes to balancing being an inspiration to plus size people and not getting carried away from negating your wellbeing. A little something that Olivasworld95 talked about from her weight loss video.

Arame:
Actually, Lizzo was being body shamed years before the allegations. Mind you, those are allegations, there’s no proof she actually did anything of those things. It’s so bad that comedian, Corey Holcomb, a fat guy himself constantly ridicules Lizzo for her weight claiming any man that’s with her is “settling”

RoundRosy:
Second weekend spent in just a comfy robe and not putting on “street clothes” as I’m not going anywhere in the cold. But now getting a bit worried about getting lax…and how unconcerned I am about not feeling any clothing restraints….Do other folks not get “dressed” on occasion?

Arame:
Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died from being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

JN_TumLover56:
Interesting take on this topic, very valid points. But with Lizzo’s case her reputation has already been skewed by the allegations of her body shaming her own backup dancers, then with the weight loss then people got bad because of the somewhat hypocrisy.

I have also seen a similar story with Adele when she lost the weight even with being a voice towards being a positive influence for being more curvier at the time.

And I can see why because they try to preach about embracing imperfections and saying to not worry about changing to be skinny to met societal standards… and then when they lose the weight; that’s when people be like “WTF I thought you were confident?”. It seems like it’s a lot more tricky when it comes to balancing being an inspiration to plus size people and not getting carried away from negating your wellbeing. A little something that Olivasworld95 talked about from her weight loss video.

HappyBigBelly:
True that FAs and active fat encouragers have to keep their SO’s overall comfort and mobility in mind.

My wife is about 330/340 pounds and sexy as heck, but she maintains her numbers where they are. Gaining up to 400 would probably be a snap, but mobility would be that much harder.

Arame:
So, what I’ve observed back when social media was still in its infancy is the misogynistic double standards when it comes to being fat. We’ve it propagated in media for over 30 years how it’s acceptable to be fat as a man but not as a woman. Shows like Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, King of Queens etc. where the husbands is fat but the wife is the bombshell.

And we can even look at music, same kind of thing. Biggie Smalls/Notorious B.I.G, Heavy D, Big Pun, Fat Joe, The Fat Boys etc. Why am I mentioning them, you may ask?

Because it’s mighty funny how when Lizzo showed confidence and being unapologetic about her weight, she was “promoting obesity”
But when make rappers literally base their rap persona off of being fat, they was considered the GOATS of their genre.

Lizzo, literally got bullied into losing weight but meanwhile, current rapper T. Grizzly faces zero criticism.


Body positivity and fat acceptance ONLY became an issue when women began to show confidence in themselves instead of feeling sorry for themselves.


Did I forget to mention that Big Pun and Heavy D literally died for being obese and yet to this day are praised for their music but again Lizzo was bullied into a weight loss journey? So she was promoting obesity but they weren’t? When they literally died from being obese??? Smh it’s infuriating

Munchies:
No. Years ago, I was happy to discuss such things with you. I was patient. I was kind. But my patience and kindness are not infinite. After many conversations with you where I've been insulted and disregarded, I have no desire to allow you to treat me like that ever again.

Enas:
I get that but you also dont shy away from making all short of statements about me that are false, because theyre based on, either my past (and not present) behavior, or they are just false due to a lack of information.

I've been trying to give you all that information but you refuse again and again. Yet you continue judging me incorrlectly (Im not bothered with being judged, but when you do it incorectly and publicly, i will have an extremely hard time making friends, etc.)

Morbidly A Beast:
Everyone wants to pathologize the bad guy and cant admit that there is just buttholes in the world.

Enas:
I dont care to pathologize anyone. I simply want people to learn what narcissism is, and what it is not, what are its specific qualifies, etc, and to be capable of figuring out the dangers that exist with it (for example, the worst case is narcissists in position of power). And i especially want the mods to be able to moderate these people properly.

Munchies:
This is true. Some people have mental health issues, but that doesn't make them a bad person. Some people are bad people that happen to have mental health issues. Those issues may or may not contribute to them being shitty people.

But I think most assholes are just assholes. No mental health issues involved.

Morbidly A Beast:
Exactly. This isn’t to say narcissism doesn’t exist as a classification or anything just to say that just because someone is a *** or you don’t like someone doesn’t mean necessarily that they are a narcissist, it’s far far to common to hear that these days everyone is a narcissist, to me it’s a lot like people online who say they are autistic having never been diagnosed, just an excuse for their asocial behavior or whatever

HectorBalloon:
Do you mean antisocial (as opposed to asocial)?

I was diagnosed with autism and being super introverted in addition I don't socialise and am more or less asocial (meaning just not interested in socalising) as opposed to anti-social (activily bad behaviour etcetra).

But yeah generally I agree with everything else you say.

Munchies:
Once again, no one is saying you suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. If anything, you are an insecure manchild trying to prove to the world you are smarter and wiser than you actually are.

Enas:
No, not at all! Your second sentense couldnt be further from the truth actually! I know what i am and what my abilities and needs are and what they're not. And neither am i ashamend of, or insecure with, my weaknesses. I really dont care to prove my intelligence to people, except of course when *they* for whatever reason need me to demonstrate it (which is something i sometimes also need from other people too, in order to bond with them properly!)

Can we sometime have a conversation about all this? Please? 🤣

FeedTheFatty:
Anybody who has smoked has at some point made a fun stoned meal. One of my best was a bacon egg and cheese between two cinnamon rolls which was a real gut bomb. Does anybody else have a good stoner meal that they make when trying to stuff?

MottiF:
What do you mean a “real gut bomb”?