Communities are communities. Like all groupings, people here will be of varying logical skills. If you want to set up a site for smart, logical folks interested in gaining and encouraging, there might be a fair bit of interest.

I for one find the inane stuff annoying, but I also find ample smart and interesting people and comments to keep me coming back.

Maybe it'll force all of you closeted FAs and feeders to go public?

The problem with this surgery, and the woman, is that there's so much fat hatred it's hard to know what's what. Did she get so very fat in part in response to the disdain and hatred she experienced? Did she not get medical treatment because she was fat and didn't get taken seriously? or didn't fit in the diagnostic devices? Did she agree to the surgery just to make the people around her stop the hate speech?

Renee's death has many, many causes, many (if not most) of which have to do with a culture of fat hatred.