Realistically? Yes, I made my peace with it well over a decade ago. The bottom line is, the numbers don't favor it, I'm not gonna lie to you.

Also, anytime gaining is involved, at some point that has to end. But I'm assuming you don't want the relationship to end when that happens, I know I don't. This means the relationship has to be built on something else.

It's far, far easier to find someone who's already quite fat and likes eating. While that means you'd miss out on the gaining process, it would have to end anyway. It also means having a life that's already adapted to being fat.

Also, someone said it might be easier or more likely when you give up looking. That's not true. If you do, life will pass you by, and you will die alone. Last time I was on a date, was years ago and I'm not even sure if it really counted. I've made little to no effort since then (why this is, is beyond the scope of this thread), and there have been no dates or prospects since then.

But, that's not why I keep coming back here. I come back here because I like the community, the discussion, the thoughts, and the content that others upload.

This is only a part of me, anyway.

I can almost swear it's more leaky than before, but I don't know what triggers it, so it's hard to give context or more information.

I'm not talking about the leaks around reset which are well known and easy enough to avoid.

On 3 occasions I've seen it happen, many times in a row, not just one random message.

In every case, they appeared to be intended to be PMs. They always ended up one-sided, so it's not both sides of the conversation showing up.

At one point, perhaps the first time I saw this happen, I banned someone for 1 day, thinking it was deliberate and it went on for a good while, annoying the other users. Although the user didn't respond to any of my attempts to reach out and acknowledge it either. I think it was maybe deliberate but I'm not sure now.

The second and third times were acknowledged by the user. No bans needed, and in both cases it stopped, though I'm not sure what those users did. Maybe they reloaded the chat web page?

I'm sorry I don't have more information, or can provide any method through which this can be reproduced reliably.

I can confirm that it's doing nothing, as of this evening, March 27th, '25. No channels/rooms, no user list, 0 available private message threads remaining, etc.

As if the entire backend is frozen, has crashed, or otherwise not running.

FF is looking for folks willing to test it, although so far, it seems not many have tried it, so far as I know.

I don't know what video resolution or FPS is offered, but presumably anyone with access to at least 4-5 Mbps of upload speed could probably do this. That's basically 4G or better, or even the weakest/slowest cable and fiber connections.

I don't know what kind of video codecs are used, but presumably 1080p 60FPS YouTube needs about 5Mbps. 720p is about half that. However, I can't be certain what impact this would have on data usage for limited/metered mobile connections.

If you're on ADSL or even VDSL/FTTN, that may not be enough. Though at least in the U.S., I'm not aware of any telco that's been willing to activate new ADSL or VDSL subscriptions for years, but at the same time I don't believe any have dropped existing customers and I'm not sure about forced upgrades. I know traditional copper POTS phone lines are still available in some areas, so theoretically some ADSL and even dial-up customers may still exist. Apparently it's still possible to sign up for dial-up accounts in 2025 for $12.95/mo., not including the phone line. But I digress. I doubt the aforementioned describes many people nowadays.

I do know one person who attempted an impromptu live stream, which is different from a scheduled live stream.

Allegedly, one person saw it and reported a lackluster experience; I don't recall if it was glitching sound or laggy video.

However, at the time I was unable to locate any link that would even allow me to join it, so I don't know what to make of it.

After the broken impromptu live stream, the person who made it thought about trying a scheduled one the next day, but then I saw she canceled it and changed her mind.

That means so far, I haven't seen a scheduled live stream and I can't even speak to how well it works.

I just know they're looking for some folks to try.

It might help if you think in terms of small, interim goals. 5-10 lbs here and there.

You might also not want to think in terms of a final goal, because either it's so far away that it seems demotivating as you said, or you do reach it only to find it's not enough. Having a major goal is fun to think about, but I don't think you should be overly focused on it, or when you might reach it.

Using small goals like I said, you will get there eventually, if you really want to.

I've been waiting for this thread to die, and not because the OP is no longer here. This kind of topic, or a close variation, does comes up from time to time, and it's the same, tired old saw, every time. I also have no doubt there are some readers who have so far not said anything, but might be thinking it.

It's nearly always the personality and vibe that's off-putting, damn near every single time. Did you come on far too heavy (pun not intended) or strong? Do you ever talk about anything besides feederism/fat chat/how much you gained/lost/etc.? Maybe you're not coming off as all that interesting, or you reek of desperate anger and your attitude sucks.

Speaking of attitudes that suck, to really help to drive this point home, let's flip the script and reverse places. Imagine some woman out there, who says things like "no one is into fat chicks" or "all men are scum/bad/no good/whatever." It's even very possible you might look at her and think "she's kind of cute and easy on the eyes." But know what else you're going to think? "What a rotten attitude! She's a hot mess that I don't want to have anything to do with!"

It gets even worse if you start talking to people who agree, and before you know it, you've formed your own "He-man Women Hater's" club or a "Feminazi All Men Are Trash" club, and now you're trapped into this deafeningly loud echo chamber of negative reinforcement.

This doesn't apply to just forming relationships either, romantic or not. Imagine if someone was selling a car. If the car salesmen starts off the sales pitch by groveling at your feet, saying things like "I've been trying to sell this car for 9 months and I knocked 75% off the sale price!," does that make you want to buy the car more, or less? Pretty sure most folks are going to be turned off and wonder what's so seriously wrong with the car for a few seconds, until then trying to get away from the salesman as fast as possible. But then on occasion, you might get a customer who will pick up on the desperation, then exploit it to negotiate the price even lower.

Similarly, this desperate anger would actually leave you vulnerable to someone very bad who might find some way to exploit you.

Another thing to remember - you won't be everyone's type, but that's okay. Lot of other people out there aren't your type either. Preferred age range alone probably eliminates 90% of the population from consideration.

Yet another thing to consider is this. I do concede there's a serious problem with some users, usually male, flooding female users with silly messages that consist of little more than "how fat do you want to get?" or "show boobs." I wish they'd stop doing that, but that's a bit much to hope for.

Maybe actually be interesting and remember you're talking to an actual person. Suppose you actually did get into a relationship? It's not gonna be about the kink at least 95%+ of the time. Also, gaining has to stop at some point.. you probably don't want the relationship to stop. So what's going to hold it together?

Finally, if anything, the experience I've had is that I actually get more attention from the ladies after weight gain, not less.

CPD - Calories Per Dollar.

If a cookie has 150 calories and costs $3 from somewhere, the math is 150 / $3 -> 50 / $1, or 50 CPD. Most would consider this very expensive.

Imagine a box of cheese sandwich crackers, that contains 16 packages. Each package is considered a serving, 200 calories each. That means the entire package supposedly has 3,200 calories, because 16 * 200 = 3,200. Then suppose the package costs $6. 3,200 / $6 -> ~533.33 / $1, or ~533 CPD.

I hope this helps.

I appreciate the clarification and you're right, you did mention that about pasta and rice. And I did say I expected you understood this clearly.

I just wanted to point out the other side of things because I never know who might be reading these posts.

And granulated, refined white sugar is apparently "2,161 CPD" at least from my local Wal-Mart, which assumes the 4lb size which for whatever reason, offers the cheapest cents/oz. ratio.

So what?

I.. gawd, where the hell do I even begin with this one?

I get it.. some items have experienced considerable sticker shock in recent years. Some folks might not have gotten a raise to match the inflation, and even if you did, there might be other expenses that went up faster. There does seem to be more who seemed squeezed than before.

I'm assuming the OP understands this clearly, but even if he does, my biggest fear is someone reading this thread is going to take this seriously in the wrong way, and attempt to prioritize CPD above all else.

That's absolutely the wrong way to look at it.

I mean okay, suppose you do eat nothing but white rice, or even white refined sugar? Health concerns and other problems aside (more on that later), you would get tired and bored of that. You would go insane, probably.

And yes, that would cause all sort of health problems. If you only have simple carbs without any fat or protein, I don't even want to theorize what would happen, but it's not going to be good.

Having nothing but sugar would pretty much guarantee diabetes, and I once heard of someone who's poor and lacks healthcare coverage, so to pay for $500/mo. on the insulin she needs, she forgoes rent and lives in her car. High fructose corn syrup, the shit that's used to sweeten soda in the U.S., causes sugar crashes that are at least 3-4x as bad, and in those large quantities would mean diabetes too. I still remember this 19 year old user who drank a 2 liter every day, and she was told she'd get diabetes if she kept that up. The only way she knew about it was she'd regularly get blood work tests done, as part of a M2F sex change transition program. That this almost happened to someone, especially so young, that's scary.

Also, such a diet will mean malnutrition, which is NOT a pretty sight or experience. Scurvy is only the tip of the iceberg.

I don't even want to theorize what kind of healthcare costs that might result in. Good grief. Even if you live in a country with free or virtually free universal healthcare coverage, you will still face costs.

Lost income from work, lost income from the time period to find work again, assuming you even can work anymore. How much is that going to cost you?

Poor quality of life because of severe malnutrition from a lack of vitamins, that you can't really quantify but is still extremely serious.

I haven't even touched upon digestion and digestion problems.

Not all calories are exactly the same, either. Sure, oil is one of the most calorie dense substances out there, but if you try to chug a bottle of that, it'll just run right through you, and you probably wouldn't even absorb most of it, most likely. Same thing could also happen if you have too much dairy fat at once. Different types of food can also take different amounts of energy to digest, too.

Go ahead and have those vegetables on burgers and pizza, drink fruit juice or if you do have soda, get the kind that uses real sugar. Junk food is often yummy of course, but try not to have too much of the really ultra-processed stuff. That's usually the stuff that comes in boxes and isn't refrigerated.

Certain canned good are okay, though a lot of them can have a lot of sodium that you might want to watch out for. While you do need sodium in your diet, odds are if you're a gainer you get more than enough of it.

Most importantly, if you can, try to have fun and just try to eat more. Do keep nutrition in mind, try to be at least somewhat balanced, and for the love of everything good, don't prioritize CPD to the exclusion of everything else. You will seriously regret it if you do.

I think this is a personal's ad? Moving it to the right board.