Calories per dollar: the new gaining meta for these trying times

Malvineous:
So what do you think about all this? And are there any other foods you're curious about?

JN_TumLover56:
This is definitely an interesting read, but I am a little confused about the CPD.

Let’s say that something that has a CPD of 50, does that mean I gotta pay $50 or maybe $0.50 on a certain grocery?? If that’s the case no wonder why people are so concerned about shopping for groceries on the news. 😅

Either way I’d like an explanation for that. Thanks!


CPD - Calories Per Dollar.

If a cookie has 150 calories and costs $3 from somewhere, the math is 150 / $3 -> 50 / $1, or 50 CPD. Most would consider this very expensive.

Imagine a box of cheese sandwich crackers, that contains 16 packages. Each package is considered a serving, 200 calories each. That means the entire package supposedly has 3,200 calories, because 16 * 200 = 3,200. Then suppose the package costs $6. 3,200 / $6 -> ~533.33 / $1, or ~533 CPD.

I hope this helps.
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Calories per dollar: the new gaining meta for these trying times

ILuvChubbyChix:
I'm assuming the OP understands this clearly, but even if he does, my biggest fear is someone reading this thread is going to take this seriously in the wrong way, and attempt to prioritize CPD above all else.

That's absolutely the wrong way to look at it.

I mean okay, suppose you do eat nothing but white rice, or even white refined sugar? Health concerns and other problems aside (more on that later), you would get tired and bored of that. You would go insane, probably.


Malvineous:
I don't expect people to be complete morons who would switch their entire diet to be nothing but cooking oil or something. Anyone who would do that is already a Darwin Award waiting to happen.

I already pointed out pasta as the best gaining food despite lard and other ingredients having higher CPD, specifically because it makes an actual meal. I even mentioned that the rice would take ages to get through because there aren't a lot of dishes that are a majority rice. The implication is that people would be using this to make real food with.

This is intended for people who have a specific idea in their head about the correct foods for gaining (fast food, mass gainer, etc.), and show them there is a better way to get results that fits their budget. That's it.


I appreciate the clarification and you're right, you did mention that about pasta and rice. And I did say I expected you understood this clearly.

I just wanted to point out the other side of things because I never know who might be reading these posts.
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Calories per dollar: the new gaining meta for these trying times

And granulated, refined white sugar is apparently "2,161 CPD" at least from my local Wal-Mart, which assumes the 4lb size which for whatever reason, offers the cheapest cents/oz. ratio.

So what?

I.. gawd, where the hell do I even begin with this one?

I get it.. some items have experienced considerable sticker shock in recent years. Some folks might not have gotten a raise to match the inflation, and even if you did, there might be other expenses that went up faster. There does seem to be more who seemed squeezed than before.

I'm assuming the OP understands this clearly, but even if he does, my biggest fear is someone reading this thread is going to take this seriously in the wrong way, and attempt to prioritize CPD above all else.

That's absolutely the wrong way to look at it.

I mean okay, suppose you do eat nothing but white rice, or even white refined sugar? Health concerns and other problems aside (more on that later), you would get tired and bored of that. You would go insane, probably.

And yes, that would cause all sort of health problems. If you only have simple carbs without any fat or protein, I don't even want to theorize what would happen, but it's not going to be good.

Having nothing but sugar would pretty much guarantee diabetes, and I once heard of someone who's poor and lacks healthcare coverage, so to pay for $500/mo. on the insulin she needs, she forgoes rent and lives in her car. High fructose corn syrup, the shit that's used to sweeten soda in the U.S., causes sugar crashes that are at least 3-4x as bad, and in those large quantities would mean diabetes too. I still remember this 19 year old user who drank a 2 liter every day, and she was told she'd get diabetes if she kept that up. The only way she knew about it was she'd regularly get blood work tests done, as part of a M2F sex change transition program. That this almost happened to someone, especially so young, that's scary.

Also, such a diet will mean malnutrition, which is NOT a pretty sight or experience. Scurvy is only the tip of the iceberg.

I don't even want to theorize what kind of healthcare costs that might result in. Good grief. Even if you live in a country with free or virtually free universal healthcare coverage, you will still face costs.

Lost income from work, lost income from the time period to find work again, assuming you even can work anymore. How much is that going to cost you?

Poor quality of life because of severe malnutrition from a lack of vitamins, that you can't really quantify but is still extremely serious.

I haven't even touched upon digestion and digestion problems.

Not all calories are exactly the same, either. Sure, oil is one of the most calorie dense substances out there, but if you try to chug a bottle of that, it'll just run right through you, and you probably wouldn't even absorb most of it, most likely. Same thing could also happen if you have too much dairy fat at once. Different types of food can also take different amounts of energy to digest, too.

Go ahead and have those vegetables on burgers and pizza, drink fruit juice or if you do have soda, get the kind that uses real sugar. Junk food is often yummy of course, but try not to have too much of the really ultra-processed stuff. That's usually the stuff that comes in boxes and isn't refrigerated.

Certain canned good are okay, though a lot of them can have a lot of sodium that you might want to watch out for. While you do need sodium in your diet, odds are if you're a gainer you get more than enough of it.

Most importantly, if you can, try to have fun and just try to eat more. Do keep nutrition in mind, try to be at least somewhat balanced, and for the love of everything good, don't prioritize CPD to the exclusion of everything else. You will seriously regret it if you do.
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Feedforyou

I think this is a personal's ad? Moving it to the right board.
2 days

Does anyone have to lose or maintain weight for jobs?

Kuntrybuddha:
I have to keep under a point for my job. I usually gain like crazy when I'm in my off season.


Fortunately, not me. That being the case for most jobs. I'm assuming you're asking about hard, explicit limits where actual numbers and measurements are used as a limit.

I suppose there might be an implicit limit in the sense of a sheer inability to perform the essential functions of the job. But, this number will vary from person and will also be very large. For most jobs, I doubt that'd be a problem unless you're in the top 0.5-1% "most heavy," and at that point you might be having problems in your personal life. At that point I'm talking well over 500-550, even 600+.

That said, there are a small number of jobs that could have such a limit, or where being beyond such a limit could cause hassle, and I'll list some examples.

One of the latest trends I've heard is of long haul truck drivers (company drivers) who have a neck circumference above a certain number, perhaps 18" or 18.5" being forced to use CPAP machines out of concerns over sleep apnea. Thing is, unless you really have sleep apnea it not only doesn't help but just causes a whole lot of hassles and problems. I've been told I snore, and I'm nowhere as large as that. Big deal. Anyway, this new requirement only increased the rate of churn for a job that already experiences extremely high rates of churn (the average new driver doesn't last beyond the first year). Why this is, is beyond the scope of this post.

I suppose anything which might require the wearing of a safety harness, perhaps because of working from great heights. An example of this would be radio tower technician, since someone has to be able to go up there to repair and replace the equipment up top. For a long time, those safety harnesses topped out at 250 lbs, which also had to include the weight of tools and replacement parts. Although I would expect safety harnesses with higher capacities have been introduced.

Anything that requires the use of an extension ladder. Last I saw, it's still possible to buy models that are only rated for 250 lbs, although models that support 400 lbs are far more common. Now that said, in the professional trades world, they're moving more towards bucket trucks and other lifts with railings, as those are considerably safer than ladders. Those lifts presumably have a much higher weight capacity.

Perhaps obviously, anything that involves modeling and acting, which are also the only occupations in the U.S. that are exempt from anti-racial discrimination laws, and are part of an extremely short list of exemptions from anti-age discrimination laws.

That said, I would be be interested to see what other jobs, if any might have explicit weight limits like this. I'm not really aware of very many. In other thread, I pointed out there was a 700+ lb owner of a tow truck business, and he was apparently able to perform those tasks just fine, despite the physical nature of the job.
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Notification e-mails on private messages are no longer sent out

ILuvChubbyChix:
I haven't seen anyone else report this, and maybe this is a new problem, perhaps introduced at about the same time the notifications area changed (which is very recent) ?

Anyway, I apparently did NOT get an e-mail telling me someone sent a PM to me, even though I did get one a few hours earlier. This is in spite of having the account settings set to send those e-mails to me.

So, this appears to be a new bug. I did check the Junk directory to make sure it wasn't that.

To be clear, I'm talking about PMs on the web site and not within the chat.

Munchies:
No one has messaged me today. Feel free to send me a test message, and I can see if I see the issue on my end.

ILuvChubbyChix:
I just sent one.

Interestingly, the e-mail I get if there's a post right after I make a thread or reply, that seems to still be working the same as before.

Munchies:
Fascinating. I've responded to your email as well. That seems to be working just fine.


Yeah, and that PM I just received, also generated an e-mail like it was supposed to.

So, problem solved, I guess?

I have no idea what happened this morning but if it doesn't repeat itself, I'm not gonna worry about it.
6 days

Notification e-mails on private messages are no longer sent out

ILuvChubbyChix:
I haven't seen anyone else report this, and maybe this is a new problem, perhaps introduced at about the same time the notifications area changed (which is very recent) ?

Anyway, I apparently did NOT get an e-mail telling me someone sent a PM to me, even though I did get one a few hours earlier. This is in spite of having the account settings set to send those e-mails to me.

So, this appears to be a new bug. I did check the Junk directory to make sure it wasn't that.

To be clear, I'm talking about PMs on the web site and not within the chat.

Munchies:
No one has messaged me today. Feel free to send me a test message, and I can see if I see the issue on my end.


I just sent one.

Interestingly, the e-mail I get if there's a post right after I make a thread or reply, that seems to still be working the same as before.
6 days

Notification e-mails on private messages are no longer sent out

I haven't seen anyone else report this, and maybe this is a new problem, perhaps introduced at about the same time the notifications area changed (which is very recent) ?

Anyway, I apparently did NOT get an e-mail telling me someone sent a PM to me, even though I did get one a few hours earlier. This is in spite of having the account settings set to send those e-mails to me.

So, this appears to be a new bug. I did check the Junk directory to make sure it wasn't that.

To be clear, I'm talking about PMs on the web site and not within the chat.
6 days

Necroposting question

Necroposting kind of goes both ways. If done properly, it's not inherently bad. Maybe the OP wants to follow up, or the thread provides a solid base of discussion to build upon. Although, as user accounts get deleted, older threads might have a broken flow so other posts in the thread are now out of context. Depending on how old the thread it, the information might even be out of date. So, it might still be a good idea to start a new thread anyway.

When it becomes a problem are personals ads which don't age well.. I'd even go so far as to say if the thread is more than 3 months ago, don't bother replying. this is because there's no practical way to track whether the thread was successful, if the OP is still interested, still single, etc. The OP can always make another thread.

I get the sometimes intense desire to find someone, but bumping old threads, especially when the OP is long gone, not only doesn't help but makes the personing doing the necroposting look bad.

Another time when it's a problem is if someone bumps an old thread just to start a problem when none exist. I almost locked a recent thread where someone did just that, but I decided I would wait to see how it played out.
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Have a job outside the home when very big

On "My 600lb Life," there were quite a few.

One of the featured patients had his own tow truck business despite being a little over 700 lbs.

Aside from the tow truck, which of course had a front bench seat and a column shifted automatic transmission, his regular daily driver car was a Lincoln Towncar, which also had a front bench seat and a column shifter.

Another patient was an accountant that, despite weighing nearly 750 lbs, showed up to the office every day. They either had a business casual dress policy, or due to size, simply didn't mind he wore a polo shirt with no tie to work each day. He had an L-shaped desk carefully arranged around a special chair.

I haven't seen every episode but there's likely a few more, so yeah there's quite a few such jobs and probably almost any desk job or indoor office job would work.

The tow truck driver was probably the most active from what I recall, though.

While not as big, there's definitely quite a few construction workers and tradesmen who exceed 300 or 350. This is anecdotal but I've seen it. On the other hand, I don't know if I've seen any extension ladders with a weight capacity that exceeds 400, and exceeding that would be very dangerous as I don't know how much "buffer" was built-in to that.
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