Is this too fast?
Deftministry117 wrote:
This is a magical thread!
More than just magical, it's completely baffled me. This is a magical thread!
11 years
Punk
UberCapitalist wrote:
To be fair I haven't been listening to much new music lately, but then that's hardly a surprise when then isn't a great deal to get excited about. The most inspirational album in the last year was probably Neil Youngs "Americana" and he's 67 years old.gary1627 wrote:
Late of the Peer, Klaxons, Metronomy and Egyptian Hip Hop are about the only bands that are pushing the boundaries of music at the moment, but their music is much more in the Post-punk style.
m8, you obviously don't listen to much new music.Late of the Peer, Klaxons, Metronomy and Egyptian Hip Hop are about the only bands that are pushing the boundaries of music at the moment, but their music is much more in the Post-punk style.
retothetard wrote:
This is what comes to my mind. Coming from a city nobody gives a shit which at one time had a really invigorating exciting punk scene which has since eroded into a bunch of trendy crust bands that all sound the same spouting cliched pseudo-anarchist politics (that I feel they don't wholly embrace).
I get kinda mad when people shoehorn punk to refer specifically to one small era focused on that one tiny European island (or that one boisterous country to my south).
Punk has been a 'thing' arguably since the mid to late 60's (I would contend far earlier if you want to draw parallels between the futurists and the stereotypical punk drink *** n fight attitude) as a scene or movement or whatever, it has expanded to the point where two bands both catigorized "punk" would sound completely different (and to a person not obsessed with the subject like two different forms of music all together). To illistrate my point (compare
with 
) with Not sure what I'm tryin to say but I can't not respond to a thread about punk...
I wouldn't take it too seriously. UK music journalism is biased towards their own local heroes, and hype them up to excessive heights(Rolling Stone does the same for San Francisco psych bands no one cares about). This leads to that guy talking about NME forced trends like "New Rave" as if it was relevant anywhere else. But yeah, the ideology and music categorized as punk rock existed before Sex Pistols.UberCapitalist wrote:
You say Sex Pistols, I say Ramones
You say The Dammned, I say The Stooges
You say Anti-Nowhere League, I say New York Dolls
You say Sham 69, I say MC5
You say The Exploited, I say Suicide
You say Demented Are Go!, I say The Cramps
You say Cockney Rejects, I say Wipers
You said Rancid for some reason even though it didn't fit with the other bands, I guess I would have to say Television to that
92% of fantasy feeder users have turned to a self-righteous hypocritical commercial movement and chav rock wholly derived from a unique New York Scene. If you are part of the 8% that still listens to the real revolutionary punk music, copy and paste this message into your profile. DON'T LET THE SPIRIT OF NON-UK GARBAGE TRENDS DIE!!!!!!!
You say Sex Pistols, I say Ramones
You say The Dammned, I say The Stooges
You say Anti-Nowhere League, I say New York Dolls
You say Sham 69, I say MC5
You say The Exploited, I say Suicide
You say Demented Are Go!, I say The Cramps
You say Cockney Rejects, I say Wipers
You said Rancid for some reason even though it didn't fit with the other bands, I guess I would have to say Television to that
92% of fantasy feeder users have turned to a self-righteous hypocritical commercial movement and chav rock wholly derived from a unique New York Scene. If you are part of the 8% that still listens to the real revolutionary punk music, copy and paste this message into your profile. DON'T LET THE SPIRIT OF NON-UK GARBAGE TRENDS DIE!!!!!!!
This is what comes to my mind. Coming from a city nobody gives a shit which at one time had a really invigorating exciting punk scene which has since eroded into a bunch of trendy crust bands that all sound the same spouting cliched pseudo-anarchist politics (that I feel they don't wholly embrace).
I get kinda mad when people shoehorn punk to refer specifically to one small era focused on that one tiny European island (or that one boisterous country to my south).
Punk has been a 'thing' arguably since the mid to late 60's (I would contend far earlier if you want to draw parallels between the futurists and the stereotypical punk drink *** n fight attitude) as a scene or movement or whatever, it has expanded to the point where two bands both catigorized "punk" would sound completely different (and to a person not obsessed with the subject like two different forms of music all together). To illistrate my point (compare
with ) with Not sure what I'm tryin to say but I can't not respond to a thread about punk...Most of my listening to new stuff comes from Xfm, which I have to say isn't anywhere as good as it used to be either. Only John Kennedy keeps the fires burning bright there now that Steve Taylor and Iain Baker are no longer there. Yes there are some good DJ's still there, but I really miss the old Xfm when there seemed like no playlists.
As for the NME, there's no love there anymore either, since Tim Jonze and Pete Cashmore no longer write for them. To make matters worse they never took me on as a contributor, what an insult! I'm a better writer and have a better ear than any of the current writers, or the writers at the time. Get the magazine about 2-3 times a year these days, if that.
As for the New York scene, I'm a fan of all the bands you've mentioned anyway, particularly Television and Wipers and would say that punk was a joint venture anyway. However, the impact was at it's most aggressive and frightening to the establishment in this country. The way some people reacted to punk here was sheer revulsion, constantly banning gigs and as "Peter and the Test Tube Babies" sang, getting banned from the pubs (yeah it was really hard to get a drink sometimes).
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