What are your advices on best cruises, cruise ships or lines to gain weight during a pleasant vacation?

Anyone had done that before?

I would like to avoid loud music or too much excursions, just quiet times and relaxation .

Thanks for sharing, makes me think.

I noticed something similar in Russia…. So would this confirm that women don’t have a tendency to get fatter to seduce men, as I assume in my initial post?

Or maybe you crave being fat but do not allow you to accede to your fantasy, and as a compensation you project this inaccessible dream to your partners? This trigger could be at a completely unconscious level.

Just trying … 😁

Thanks for your answer, I think it is an important point you’re making. I am not affirming my theory is an absolute rule though, there are exceptions (but only for exceptional people 😁)

You are trying to start a different debate. History is full of hard working women who accomplished in many cases more that what men could achieve. My point is that we are hardwired by our own evolution and many of our reactions are influenced by very deep instincts. We are a bunch clever animals after all.



I disagree with that. The fact that we are all different shouldn’t make us deny the trends and instincts that evolution gave to us. This argument is kind of political, I respect it but I think it is part of a different realm.

My question is obviously focused on heterosexual relationships, sorry maybe I should have introduced it this way.

I am not denying all orientations (which have always existed by the way) but I am on purpose building hypothesis on a "traditional" relationship as I am convinced its primordial causes still influence all orientations today.

I have been thinking recently about the reason and the perception of gaining weight in our societies, and I still have interrogations I would like to share, mainly with women.

First about the reason of the weight preference : as usual we have to think from the point of view of a "caveman" which means a male human free of social constructions and adapted to survive in a natural environment.

I am convinced that most of us males are attracted to fatter women because from the point of view of a caveman they are more susceptible to survive pregnancy and to feed a baby. I think there is a consensus on this idea, though I am talking about 80% of men having a preference for voluptuous females. I really think we are a lot. The threshold of "being too fat" might differ but the concept is the same: fatter is better.

I also think that this trend increased naturally with the adoption of clothing features which started to hid the female body and required more generous figures to be noticeable though fabrics.

From my point of view, many of the men saying "fat is gross" are only repeating a concept acquired from social constructions and are secretly aroused by the idea of a larger woman. In short, they say they don’t like fat women to conform with their social surroundings but at the same time they think they would love to squeeze these women.

Though, I am wondering if on the opposite side with the development of the "cavewoman", women acquired the natural willingness to get plumper in order to attract more cavemen? It doesn’t appear so! I have the impression that most women put on weight when they are expecting, but I think that they don’t have a instinctive need to get fat to attract men by opposition of men who will be triggered by their figures.

This discrepancy in the perception of female plumpness is an enigma to my eyes, how males and females developed so differently?

What do women think on this board?

Hi MCH,

I agree that our paths look very similar, I bet many husbands feel the same after being married for some time.

I have always been amazed to think that men can be attracted to larger women (I absolutely share your idea that it is a natural and common thing with males) but at the same time women in average don’t respond to male enthusiasm by putting on more weight.

Here is a theory: maybe our wives shifted to a more romantic relationship while our basic male conditions (sorry I am making assumptions about you!) are still attracted to the sexual look and appeal. After giving birth twice, one could assume women aren’t looking for the same outcomes with their relationship.

About your advice: we already have a very intimate level of discussion -has to be after 20 years together!- she knows very well about my fantasies. I guess my point is that she doesn’t want to share her feelings as much as she knows about me.

Thanks, Munchies!