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Define ugly?

I think thats just by societal standards.

All based on guilt by societal standards. Just means becoming a big fat person is 'ugly'
I guess it is technically 'ruining' in the sense that once a person gets fat enough they can't really go back

Yeah, I have dated women in the past who wanted the experience of what it would feel like to get fat and not be seen under the typical societal viewpoints of being "attractive"

Geez by that extreme this place looks fairly normal haha

But I guess now that you say it I've seen that