Goals for anti-dieters
Chimneychonga:
Interesting, I haven't heard of them being combined like this. But even in the worst case scenario, the worst effects of a semiglutide are only 1% from the physiology of the patient. Aside from a from the odd defective needle the experience the same even when applied by oneself. Compare that to invasive surgery (removing stomach tissue and stapling the stomach shut), where not only the materials and knowledge matter, but the experience of the surgeon as well. If you got the cash and travel time, your odds are much better to survive w/o complications with a skilled surgeon than your local operating room where you may be stuck with a rookie. If I had to choose for myself, I know which treatment would be faster.
As for semiglutide costs, the ingredients aren't the problem: everyone but the US generally has a better time getting it for what it's worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pndCjCKNZfQ
Frankly, it's scalping the US because R&D necessary to invent the drug was banking on the US to pay for it, and they don't want to stop the revenue by solving the problem until they get their fill. Thus, why America had a shortage while you could hop across the border and get it for a steal. And if the patent expired, people would make a generic, everyone that can take it would take it like aspirin.
Interesting, I haven't heard of them being combined like this. But even in the worst case scenario, the worst effects of a semiglutide are only 1% from the physiology of the patient. Aside from a from the odd defective needle the experience the same even when applied by oneself. Compare that to invasive surgery (removing stomach tissue and stapling the stomach shut), where not only the materials and knowledge matter, but the experience of the surgeon as well. If you got the cash and travel time, your odds are much better to survive w/o complications with a skilled surgeon than your local operating room where you may be stuck with a rookie. If I had to choose for myself, I know which treatment would be faster.
As for semiglutide costs, the ingredients aren't the problem: everyone but the US generally has a better time getting it for what it's worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pndCjCKNZfQ
Frankly, it's scalping the US because R&D necessary to invent the drug was banking on the US to pay for it, and they don't want to stop the revenue by solving the problem until they get their fill. Thus, why America had a shortage while you could hop across the border and get it for a steal. And if the patent expired, people would make a generic, everyone that can take it would take it like aspirin.
Beloved, you are missing the point.
This isn't about the efficacy of semaglutide. I don't think anyone is questioning that. It's about understand that you need different tools for different things.
Did you know that despite all of our medical advances, people are still using leeches and bloodletting in your average hospital? Sure, we don't use them the same way we used to, but there is still a medical use for them.
1 year
Goals for anti-dieters
AskDrFeeder:
One of the best parts of being a feedee is never having to diet.
It seems to me if that's your motivation, your goal should be to get fat enough to qualify for bariatric surgery but not _too_ fat for bariatric surgery. Not that you should necessarily have bariatric surgery, just that it's nice to have the option and it's nice to know if you reach that target you'll never have to diet.
Fat enough for bariatric surgery would be 40 bmi. Too fat is 450 pounds. Someone 5'7" tall, for example, should have a goal weight between 256 and 450 pounds.
Is this a crazy idea? I don't know, somehow I like it.
Chimneychonga:
I dunno, bariatric surgery is becoming a thing of the past imo with the semiglutide wave. Why surgically alter yourself to permanently gimp your stomach when you can just have the injection take care of the hunger for you? Not everyone can get on it, but I'm now seeing Groupons for them so I think it'll be the new thing people beg for when they want to be skinny again (if not already). Besides, if you want to pivot to being a powerlifter, debuffing your appetite will hurt your gains in the long run.
One of the best parts of being a feedee is never having to diet.
It seems to me if that's your motivation, your goal should be to get fat enough to qualify for bariatric surgery but not _too_ fat for bariatric surgery. Not that you should necessarily have bariatric surgery, just that it's nice to have the option and it's nice to know if you reach that target you'll never have to diet.
Fat enough for bariatric surgery would be 40 bmi. Too fat is 450 pounds. Someone 5'7" tall, for example, should have a goal weight between 256 and 450 pounds.
Is this a crazy idea? I don't know, somehow I like it.
Chimneychonga:
I dunno, bariatric surgery is becoming a thing of the past imo with the semiglutide wave. Why surgically alter yourself to permanently gimp your stomach when you can just have the injection take care of the hunger for you? Not everyone can get on it, but I'm now seeing Groupons for them so I think it'll be the new thing people beg for when they want to be skinny again (if not already). Besides, if you want to pivot to being a powerlifter, debuffing your appetite will hurt your gains in the long run.
So, I work with medical records - including both bariatric surgery and the "semaglutide wave." Drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy are not going to replace bariatric surgery. Controlling for things like price and insurance coverage, there will still be plenty of people who will continue to get the surgery over the medications.
Not everyone is a candidate for semaglutide. You have allergies, drug interactions, health conflicts, etc. Plus, on average, people lose about 21% of their body weight on Mounjaro and 12-15% on Ozempic and Wegovy.
universityofcalifornia.edu/news/are-newest-weight-loss-drugs-too-good-be-true
This is fine for people who are overweight, but when you get to the obese and morbidly obese category, some people may not find it worth it.
On top of all that, you have to keep taking these medications to keep the weight off. This is not practical for some people.
Doctors recommend one or the other depending on what's needed. Sometimes, they prescribe semaglutide for certain bariatric patients who are struggling to keep the weight off or aren't losing the weight at the recommended rate.
You can check this out for more information if you are curious:
[img]https://www.alobariatrics.com/semaglutide-after-bariatric-surgery-does-it-make-sense/[/img]
1 year
My friend can't have glutten but trying to gain weight any advice
I do wanna add that just because some place advertises they sell gluten-free options does not mean it's actually gluten-free. If they are not taking the proper steps to avoid cross-contamination, your gluten-free pizza or baked goods might have a little bit of gluten in it.
Another thing to keep in mind is that wheat-free does not mean gluten-free. I know many people who think that as long as a product does not contain wheat, they are good to go. This is not necessarily the case. Cross-contamination aside, there are non-wheat foods that contain gluten.
This website gives a pretty comprehensive list of things that can have gluten in them:
celiac.org/gluten-free-living/what-is-gluten/sources-of-gluten/
That said, thanks to the gluten-free diet fad from a while back and a growing acceptance of Celiac disease, it is much easier to find gluten-free foods. Look for the gluten-free or certified gluten-free label. You can find a lot of things at your local grocery store, but if you want to get fancy, check out your local organic/natural food store. You'll find a lot more variety there.
Another thing to keep in mind is that wheat-free does not mean gluten-free. I know many people who think that as long as a product does not contain wheat, they are good to go. This is not necessarily the case. Cross-contamination aside, there are non-wheat foods that contain gluten.
This website gives a pretty comprehensive list of things that can have gluten in them:
celiac.org/gluten-free-living/what-is-gluten/sources-of-gluten/
That said, thanks to the gluten-free diet fad from a while back and a growing acceptance of Celiac disease, it is much easier to find gluten-free foods. Look for the gluten-free or certified gluten-free label. You can find a lot of things at your local grocery store, but if you want to get fancy, check out your local organic/natural food store. You'll find a lot more variety there.
1 year
Winter is coming make sure all your gear fits from last year
MickRidem:
Y'know what someone should invent? A widening strip. A piece that has zippers to fit your coat on each side, so you can have this widening option. Like a leaf in a dining room table.
Someone, go get rich off of that. šš¤£
Munchies:
You will be happy to know this exists. It's marketed for pregnant women, but it exists.
makemybellyfit.com/products/universal-jacket-extender
MickRidem:
Well buckle-my-buttons, if that ain't just the greatest thing!! šš„° I will need to remember this when I start to outgrow my current winter stuff!! Thank you!
Y'know what someone should invent? A widening strip. A piece that has zippers to fit your coat on each side, so you can have this widening option. Like a leaf in a dining room table.
Someone, go get rich off of that. šš¤£
Munchies:
You will be happy to know this exists. It's marketed for pregnant women, but it exists.
makemybellyfit.com/products/universal-jacket-extender
MickRidem:
Well buckle-my-buttons, if that ain't just the greatest thing!! šš„° I will need to remember this when I start to outgrow my current winter stuff!! Thank you!
You're welcome!
1 year
Moderation.
Enas:
What counts as derailment though? Sometimes it is necesary to talk about a relevant but different, than the original, topic in order to understand the original one. In a natural conversation that happens often and its not a bad thing. Why is this always treated as a derailment here?
What counts as derailment though? Sometimes it is necesary to talk about a relevant but different, than the original, topic in order to understand the original one. In a natural conversation that happens often and its not a bad thing. Why is this always treated as a derailment here?
Thank you very kindly for proving my point, Enas.
And with that, bless your heart, you sweet summer child. I shall go about the rest of my day now.
1 year
Moderation.
Enas:
I was planning to open a discussion about moderation myself but i wasnt super motivated. Now that i see one, i should intervene before it goes horribly wrong.
If we are going to have a discussion about moderation, which i hope this is one, we first need to actually understand clearly what moderation is in the first place and agree on a single definition. We can, and we should debate what definition we should proceed with, that is something that needs to happen. Thats because we cannot have any discussion, with which we will reach a helpfull logical conclusion, if Everyone's definitions contradict each other. I think a good way to do this would be to define what are the needs of a community that moderation is an attempt to satisfy, from which we can easily figure out what should the goals of moderation be, and then we can finally figure out how FantasyFeeder should be moderated, so that these goals will be achieved. I think this is a good outline of what we should be really doing, so i would like us to (hopefully) proceeded with that,unless someone can come up with a better idea.
So, what is everyone's thesis on the first question "What are the needs of this community that moderation ought to cover"? (Lets put the Hegelian dialectic to work, and see what are the good points that people bring up, and use those to synthesize a more developed thesis!)
Munchies:
Enas ... there is a literal moderator in this thread. She's the site owner's right-hand woman. Right now, all she is asking for are examples for better praxis. She doesn't need you to tell her how to perform debate.
This is akin to reading a bunch of books about surgical practice and telling a surgeon how to do their job.
All that said, if I am blunt, this is an example of what Morbidly is talking about.
Enas:
I was refering to everybody. I think pluralism is needed here more than anything.
There is also a long debate to be held on what moderation should be in the first place. Im here to talk about that, not to instruct. That is also why i didnt express my thesis on it, i dont have one. The best i can do is see problems in other people's thesis. Which is gonna be helpfull later on, hopefully.
I was planning to open a discussion about moderation myself but i wasnt super motivated. Now that i see one, i should intervene before it goes horribly wrong.
If we are going to have a discussion about moderation, which i hope this is one, we first need to actually understand clearly what moderation is in the first place and agree on a single definition. We can, and we should debate what definition we should proceed with, that is something that needs to happen. Thats because we cannot have any discussion, with which we will reach a helpfull logical conclusion, if Everyone's definitions contradict each other. I think a good way to do this would be to define what are the needs of a community that moderation is an attempt to satisfy, from which we can easily figure out what should the goals of moderation be, and then we can finally figure out how FantasyFeeder should be moderated, so that these goals will be achieved. I think this is a good outline of what we should be really doing, so i would like us to (hopefully) proceeded with that,unless someone can come up with a better idea.
So, what is everyone's thesis on the first question "What are the needs of this community that moderation ought to cover"? (Lets put the Hegelian dialectic to work, and see what are the good points that people bring up, and use those to synthesize a more developed thesis!)
Munchies:
Enas ... there is a literal moderator in this thread. She's the site owner's right-hand woman. Right now, all she is asking for are examples for better praxis. She doesn't need you to tell her how to perform debate.
This is akin to reading a bunch of books about surgical practice and telling a surgeon how to do their job.
All that said, if I am blunt, this is an example of what Morbidly is talking about.
Enas:
I was refering to everybody. I think pluralism is needed here more than anything.
There is also a long debate to be held on what moderation should be in the first place. Im here to talk about that, not to instruct. That is also why i didnt express my thesis on it, i dont have one. The best i can do is see problems in other people's thesis. Which is gonna be helpfull later on, hopefully.
Aaaaand this is what Morbidly was talking about, C00kie. Stuff like this will happen. Some people will throw in their two cents, and most will try to move on to the original topic. But you have some people who just refuse to read the room.
Eventually, the mods will lock the thread. If they deem it worth saving, they will delete all the comments that aren't about the original topicāeven the ones that criticize the people who derailed the topicāand then reopen the thread with instructions to stay on topic.
This can leave the people pushing back against the person/people who pushed back against the derailer - even the gentle, respectful ones - with a bad taste in their mouths.
1 year
Moderation.
Enas:
I was planning to open a discussion about moderation myself but i wasnt super motivated. Now that i see one, i should intervene before it goes horribly wrong.
If we are going to have a discussion about moderation, which i hope this is one, we first need to actually understand clearly what moderation is in the first place and agree on a single definition. We can, and we should debate what definition we should proceed with, that is something that needs to happen. Thats because we cannot have any discussion, with which we will reach a helpfull logical conclusion, if Everyone's definitions contradict each other. I think a good way to do this would be to define what are the needs of a community that moderation is an attempt to satisfy, from which we can easily figure out what should the goals of moderation be, and then we can finally figure out how FantasyFeeder should be moderated, so that these goals will be achieved. I think this is a good outline of what we should be really doing, so i would like us to (hopefully) proceeded with that,unless someone can come up with a better idea.
So, what is everyone's thesis on the first question "What are the needs of this community that moderation ought to cover"? (Lets put the Hegelian dialectic to work, and see what are the good points that people bring up, and use those to synthesize a more developed thesis!)
I was planning to open a discussion about moderation myself but i wasnt super motivated. Now that i see one, i should intervene before it goes horribly wrong.
If we are going to have a discussion about moderation, which i hope this is one, we first need to actually understand clearly what moderation is in the first place and agree on a single definition. We can, and we should debate what definition we should proceed with, that is something that needs to happen. Thats because we cannot have any discussion, with which we will reach a helpfull logical conclusion, if Everyone's definitions contradict each other. I think a good way to do this would be to define what are the needs of a community that moderation is an attempt to satisfy, from which we can easily figure out what should the goals of moderation be, and then we can finally figure out how FantasyFeeder should be moderated, so that these goals will be achieved. I think this is a good outline of what we should be really doing, so i would like us to (hopefully) proceeded with that,unless someone can come up with a better idea.
So, what is everyone's thesis on the first question "What are the needs of this community that moderation ought to cover"? (Lets put the Hegelian dialectic to work, and see what are the good points that people bring up, and use those to synthesize a more developed thesis!)
Enas ... there is a literal moderator in this thread. She's the site owner's right-hand woman. Right now, all she is asking for are examples for better praxis. She doesn't need you to tell her how to perform debate.
This is akin to reading a bunch of books about surgical practice and telling a surgeon how to do their job.
All that said, if I am blunt, this is an example of what Morbidly is talking about.
1 year
