[Marches around thread with bullhorn]

But FemaleFatAdmirer...IT WOULD BE WRONG!

I was not prepared for this dilemma.

And yet, as if by some unholy magic, the little Amazon ad beneath this message is prompting me to purchase an S&M paddle--rated 4.5 out of 5 stars by customers!

A moral quandary!

I feel quite certain that you intended, but perhaps merely forgot, to also post a disclaimer that this is a purely hypothetical scenario. Naturally.

My best guess is that you're hitting the upper limit on number of characters allowed per chapter, which, off the top of my head, is 10,000 or somewhere around there. It will cut off at that limit.

I'm not sure why you're getting the message about the minimum 2,000 characters if you have at least that much, but I think that might just be a glitch.

My suggestion: Do a draft in a text editor (preferably one that shows character count), try to keep the chapter a bit below 10,000 characters (maybe 9,500 or whatever, so you have a bit of wiggle room), and then copy and paste that into the FF form and submit your chapter.

Ditto on the hawthorn extract. In addition to capsules, the brand Dr. Christopher's sells a liquid syrup that is a bit pricey but high-quality and delicious-tasting. Several other reputable brands sell capsules.

Cucumber is also reportedly good at reducing blood pressure. You could probably get a good intake if you have a juicer. Or you could eat some gazpacho (no salt!) every day.

Not to bum you out further, but I don't know that FF is the best place to go looking for a relationship. And in any case I suspect that, for most people, the chances that a romantic relationship and a feeder/feedee relationship will coincide are slim to nil.

A big part of the problem is that the dynamics are lopsided. Feedees get the lion's share of attention here, and you're in competition with all the other feeders to capture that attention. In short...we feeders need feedees a lot more than the feedees need us.

Finally (and this seems to be happening more frequently lately), many feedees consider FF and similar sites to be a business opportunity, regardless of whether they are genuinely "into" this fetish. We could debate until we're blue in the face whether this is right or wrong, fair or unfair...but it does happen.

But hey, I'm making broad generalizations here, and your mileage may vary, as they say. Good luck.

I also think that what is not being taken into account is that people contribute to this site and others like it in ways besides modeling, cams, and so on.

How about artwork, stories, even just being an active member in chat or in the forums...there are plenty of people here who put in a lot of effort into creating content without much expectation of reciprocity. Is it freeloading for people to consume that content when it is freely shared? There is something to be said for participating just for the joy of doing it, or to find other like-minded individuals, or just to express one's ideas. So I do think there is something to be said for the "fantasy" part of Fantasy Feeder.

OK, I could concede that being a feeder constitutes tangibly feeding someone.

But then, you would have to concede that there's no such thing as "virtual feeding" or "long-distance" feeding. That should more properly be called "donating food" or "financial support."

If they're lucky, the donator might get to watch the recipient eat. That also is not "feeding." That's "watching someone eat."

I disagree. It's the weight gain element that differentiates fat admirers from feeders and feedees. It's the process that's crucial.

There are plenty of fat admirers who have no particular desire to see those they admire get any fatter. In fact, there are many fat admirers who look askance at feeders/feedees and consider it a bridge too far.

I also have been into this for many years and that long-standing debate has been raging for as long as I can remember.

I think everyone is losing sight of the fact that this is a paraphilia we're discussing. It's sexual.

If you are sexually aroused by the idea of someone gaining weight, you're a feeder. If you're sexually aroused at the thought of gaining weight yourself, you're a feedee. Or you could be both.

Whether one ever takes steps to realize these fantasies doesn't change the underlying fact that there's a sexual element at the core of all of this. And "feeder" and "feedee" are the established terms for people who have these sexual proclivities. That's all. It's shorthand.

I don't think there should suddenly be all these new prerequisites qualifying anyone as a "real" feeder or a "real" feedee beyond that.

I suppose I can see a slight distinction between an "encourager" and a "feeder." But if we are going to make that distinction, then "feeding" someone long-distance or any other way besides in-person isn't "real" "feeding" so much as it is "enabling."