Feedback required - validating accounts

FF Team:
Hi all,

As you know, here at Fantasy Feeder we're always trying to improve, so you get the best experience using our website.

We have been contacted by a lot by members, who feel concerned about the majority of users that seem to be only using the site to promote their own personal paid for services.

They have felt that trying to find a genuine person to date, meet, or chat with is becoming harder and harder with the increase in users, that are only here to possibly exploit our website, and membership base for monetary gain.

We have been thinking about how to improve the site in a way that makes it easier for like minded members to find each other. So we have thought about the idea of validating profiles, but we would like your input before we start implementing any major changes.

Would you find this sort of feature helpful?

Look forward to hearing your opinions on this.

Thanks!

c00kie
FF Team


FF Team:
Thank you to all those getting involved in this discussion, your feedback really is appreciated.

In regards to the way validation would work, we can work out those kinks as and when developed. Anyone who had been validated and then turned out to be someone selling content would simply have the validation removed from their profile. This would be a matter of mod spot checks, and reporting from you guys using the abuse report tool.

Anyway the main question really we want answered...

Is this a feature that you want, or feel is needed on the site?

Or are you happy with how things currently are, maybe it's not a big an issue as we have been led to believe?


This issues you've brought up are real ones, and I see people complaining about related issues on a very regular basis. A fix, such as the ones you and others have mentioned, will likely be appreciated and endorsed by many people on this site. I am one of them. Even though I do not have a picture of my face up publicly, I would be willing to submit some kind of proof of identity to the admins.
4 years

Feedback required - validating accounts

hiccupx:
We've considered two types of validation so far that might be useful but would love to hear your feedback. These are:

* Verify that users are who they claim to be, to reduce fake profiles. This would work in the same way as it does on many sites, where the members publishes a pic of themselves holding a sign saying 'fantasy feeder'

* Perhaps more controversially - verify that users aren't trying to sell something or asking for money. So long as there's nothing to suggest otherwise in their profile or posts, we'll verify the profile, however if we see or hear otherwise, we'll remove the verification.

Verified members would have a badge shown on their profile and could be searched for. Whilst there's nothing wrong with trying to earn money online, the idea is to try to improve friendships/dating/conversation by highlighting those people genuinely interested in the fetish.

Post your thoughts/comments/suggestions below.

clive2007:
To part 1 - as you say, this procedure is being used already to verify certain members, holding up something that validates that they are a real member, and this can certainly confirm things like age (although anything proving that would I imagine have to be sent in privately, can't have pics of drivers licences or passports being made public) - yet this would prove they are a "real person" - it wouldn't stop them from then going on to post details about running paid services etc and so on.

To part 2 where physically checking a profile on joining FF to make sure paid services or otherwise asking for money in return for something isn't being posted would work in the interim, but they could then start making such posts after being validated - yet you do say that you'd remove validation (presumably through policing) if such posts were made.

I'd say a third possible option, so that we could include posters who do have paid services to be able to feel included would be to maybe enhance point 2 and include an extra tier of membership reserved for those that have paid services which would mean that they would be paying (via subscription) for the privilege of advertising externally.

If they joined under that tier, and subsequently canceled this subscription down the road, then they would then still be subject to the second option where profiles/posts would be checked for illegal content.


Clive


This is what immediately came to mind for me as well. Two different membership types: General, and Professional. General memberships may pay for site packages, or not, like normal. Professional memberships must pay, but maybe they get perk packages, such as a new banner space where the site rotates through the professional membership profiles or something. The fact is, when you make something against the rules without creating an outlet, people just find ways to go around it. Always. That's what black markets are. Where there's demand, such as demand for advertising space, there will be a market and there will be people willing to do anything to get it. It may be that the only answer is by hitting them in their pocketbooks, lol. By creating a authorized avenue for professional memberships, you will incentive everyone that does obey the rules to flag everyone that doesn't.

But the problem always will loop back to the fact that a banned profile is not a banned person or agency. And the only answer to that, aside from ineffectually banning IPs, is to force people to show ID if they want to have an account here. Now, this sounds rough, but the truth is, the site is not completely blocked - there is content that is viewable to anyone without an account. But if anyone that is able to make a profile or message or post is registered and verified, it will solve most problems, while still leaving an avenue for people that, for whatever reason, can't or won't register, by still having (albeit very limited) site access.
4 years

Could feederism be genetic?

John Smith:
Feederism is not genetic: there haven't any secret genotype that predisposes people into developping a compulsive infatuation toward anything involving fatness, fat/heavier-bodied appearances and an urge to fulfill sexual arousal by enabling thinner or fat individuals to pile on pounds by means of consistent feeding sessions: otherwise, Lipophilia would be close from being defined as a congenital paraphilia or congenital neuronal disorder.

That's not how population genetics works: you're most likely confusing genetic hereditary , who implies the cross-generational passing-away of physiological information through the embedding of that said information within your genotype, with cross-generrational epigenetic transmission that implies the passing-away of alterable or hereditary molecular alterations through genetic expression that doesn't affect your genotypic structure--e.g. mutate you.

From an evolutionary standpoint, heavier-figured women in Paleolithic and latter traditional societies were perceived as better physically fit and fecund than their thinner fellows, therefore better proponent to extensively carrying an healthy progeny and remaining resilient against the risks of a shortage of food due to periods of famine, migration or war. However, big-bellied women were less desirable in archaic societirs due to their paunch being associated with motherhood.

Overweight or obese individuals of one or both gender/s were held in greater regard within some societies (pre-Industrial Age Europe, Islamic world, Africa, Polynesia, ancient Rome, ancient Greece, ecetera) as being of a plump or stout bearing was a cue for a well-to-do extraction.

Even some modern studies agrees than large-hipped and bottom-heavy women have better chances to develop greater mnemotic health and to beget children with fairly greater-than-average cognitive and mnemotic development, while curvier or bosomly women tend to have greater-than-average hormonal production in oestrogens and phytoestogens.

A mumbo-jumbo of refrained greater sexual desirability among males toward female bodies, combined by millenias of sexuerotic inclinations embedded within our collective preconscious, seems to favor some Westerners and extra-Westerners coming from societies holding a thin-o-centric cultural bias to favor an attraction toward heavier women: people struck by Lipophilia being simply but the visible tip of the iceberg.


wow.

Yah, so, that load of pomposity could be somewhat true, but a greater propensity toward having a sexual attraction to heavier people could absolutely be genetic, straight up, not just epigenetic. Propensity is an intentionally vague term - you are not guaranteed, just slightly more likely. But you could also be attracted to fat women just because they're hot. XD

I have a degree in genetics, but it's just a BS. You speak like you have a doctorate, but if you did, I don't think you'd speak like that, lol. Unless you don't teach.

As for the bottom-heavy thing, my understanding is that that is due to a different type of fat being stored there that is rarely, if ever, liberated during famine, and is instead used singularly to develop large baby brains (DHA and related fats, EPA?). And, of course, wider hips being capable of bearing children more easily - everyone loves hips, lol.
4 years

Could feederism be genetic?

JohnyJohny:
No, it is not, but obesity is. Science shows that genetics plays a role in obesity. Genes can directly cause obesity in specific disorders. However genes do not always predict future health. Genes and behavior may both be needed for a person to be overweight.
Playing stardewvalleys .com after every meal will help you gain more wait.

becomingoverweight:
This is fucking hilarious. For anyone wondering, that's not SDV's website. It's probably a virus or malware site. SDV's official site is www.stardewvalley.net/ . I don't know how you or whoever you work for expected anyone to fall for that. It'd be very uncharacteristic for ConcernedApe to send someone out to a fat fetishism site to try to sell his game. Since you don't seem to be a bot and are actually some employee in some criminal enterprise, can you tell me why so many of your kind are targeting a fat fetishism site of all places???

Also, on topic, there should be more research on what exactly fetishes are in the brain. Are there genetic pre-dispositions? Are there fetishes that some genes guarantee? Do people develop fetishes from external stimuli? If so, what are the mechanisms? There are lots of questions and not enough answers.


lol, thanks for saving the link, went there before I read the post hahaha. Luckily, I don't think it is viral, but then I didn't click on any of the links there...
4 years

Face pics - do they make you seem more or less real?

Ditzy:
I do wonder why people are too scared to post a face pic.
They must be embarrassed to be here.
I mean you are an adult that likes fat so own up to it what can they do?
If a friend accidentally found out by seeing a pic of you here then he must be into fat as well or he wouldn't be here in the first place.


Personally, I don't worry about a friend finding me here, but I worry about a potential employer doing a face search on google at some point and find it. I don't even know if that is possible, but I can't say it doesn't worry me. And even if it were just about being attracted to heavier people, I could see the stigma potentially affecting unrelated things, no matter how unfair. But for me personally, it's more, as most of the material I have associated with this profile, both here and on DA, is, well, naughty lol. Even if a boss doesn't care about who you're attracted to, it's hard to imagine it wouldn't color their perspective to find out you've been writing fetish porn since you were 12yo, right? hahaha
4 years

Face pics - do they make you seem more or less real?

c00kie:
I have been on the site for around 12 years and can safely say I have never been 'found out' here by a friend or family member... However I have had my pictures stolen and posted elsewhere. The pictures that were stolen were of my entire body, not of my face. So I actually don't post body pictures anymore... I just have my face on here as that feels safer to me.

I totally understand that people may not want to show their face here. I don't think it's to do with being embarrassed for liking fat people, but rather being associated with a fetish that a lot of people just really don't understand, and have negative feelings towards. So the potential of being found out, and having to maybe have a discussion about that may be scary for some.

I do think that having to 'come out' about your fetishism and 'come out' about a preference for dating fat people, or being body confident are definitely two different things. While my friends and family know I am happy with myself being big , I haven't ever felt the need to discuss the foodie / feedee side of things with them. Just like I don't feel the need to discuss being a sub with them... it's just not a necessity for them to know this stuff. It is private and not everyone in my life needs to know every single thing about me...

It wouldn't effect my decision to talk to someone on here or not, purely based on whether they had a face picture or not on their profile. But a genuine picture of some kind makes me feel like the person is more real even if there is a head cropped out of the frame.

As for the scammers... They use face pics to seem more real and catch users out... So in my opinion it does seem more real to have a genuine picture and especially real if you have one of your face.

The reality is, this is the Internet. People fake it, people steal pics and people catfish. So you can never realllllly know who is genuine until you video chat or meet up irl... and even then they can still be faking lol.


this. very well said
4 years

Face pics - do they make you seem more or less real?

Opinions?

Personally, I have a hard time imagining posting my face to a site like this, no matter how much I endorse the site.

For a long time, I was under the impression that the only way you knew someone was real and invested was if they had a face pic attached to their profile. But now, whenever I see a face pic on a profile, I can't help but be surprised by the confidence such a person must have... as well as wonder if it's an indicator that such a profile is less likely to be real.

Then again, odds are that if anyone really wanted to, they could probably find out who anyone on this site is, so maybe there's no real point in hiding your face nowadays, except to delay the inevitable.

Thoughts?
4 years

Holding the stories section to ransom

FF Team:
Just wanted to respond to this.

The recommended search, which is the default search until you change your search parameters, is actually in favour of well written stories. We have designed it this way to promote good quality stories so they can get to the top of the listings.

There are several things that factor in when the recommended search displays.

* Number of likes: This is factored in because members will like content that is well written.

*Number of chapters: Longer stories mean that the author has taken the time to develop the characters and plot making It a more interesting read.

*Thumbnail and description: Again this is about the time and care spent on the story. If the author can be bothered to fill these sections out correctly we hope that time and care has been taken on the main text itself.

* Newness:This is also considered so that there is a rotation of stories. That are still of good quality... as it includes the other points above too. We don't want a stagnant page that only shows the top stories that people have already read. There are always new and upcoming authors that should be showcased!

Of course everyone of our members apply different qualities to stories that make them interesting to them personally. Maybe it's the writing style, a particular author your following, a certain scenario may take your fancy or a particular character role. Whatever it is, you can use the search function to find stories that fit your preference.

We try to keep things diverse and don't want the stories section to become stagnant. Obviously algorithms are never perfect but there has been a lot of thought put into how this works. However, if you do have any bright idea's on how to improve this section, please send them our way!


You could track and network 'like' statistics as other social sites sometimes do. Each reader has a preference profile, but it isn't often easy to quantify. So don't quantify it. Instead, go top-down: For instance, if one user has liked 30 different stories, and a new user has liked the 5 of those that they've seen, there's a probability that the other 25 might be ones they would like as well. This is a very simple example, of course, but in the modern era using something as basic as just 'likes' doesn't really cut it anymore. You need to be understanding and categorizing the types of likes with respect to the users giving them - namely that different users like different types of stories, and generally have identifiable preferences - and then using that information to recommend content and, ideally, create preference profiles to further help develop your algorithms.
4 years

Holding the stories section to ransom

It's the same as chain mail - it only works because people keep liking them for it. If we never liked a story that held chapters for ransom in this way, very few authors would continue to do it. But it does work, people do like them, and so the only way to "be seen" becomes to join them, since you certainly can't beat them. Or, as Skittles said, just write for yourself and don't stress over not being the god of smut. Though my personal preference is always activist, so, like i'm-eighteen-i-swear said, I'd say keep posting threads like this one until FF chooses to change either the algorithm or site structure to disincentivize such behavior. It's not like there's not many easy solutions after all - they already have penalties for begging for money or linking to paysites. There's a dozen obvious solutions that take no coding, just reporting by users and execution by moderators. Then again, that may decrease site use. Then again, not fixing this is already decreasing site use...
4 years

Death feedists

Nok:
General question for anyone that reads this thread, and it's a weird one: I write a lot of scifi and some of it verges on fetishizing the never-ending gain, which of course must eventually end. So my question is, if you lived in some sci-fi version of the world where your mind was "backed up" all the time or "transferred" just after death, would it dull the eroticism of this fantasy? Would the death-feeding concept be less arousing if instead of total death, you were just reset back to a thin body?

vanilla ice:
I think that depends on what concept of death you adhere to. I don’t believe that death is the end, as I suspect an atheist might. From a reincarnational perspective, I suppose life would just be a series of different vessels to fatten. For me, as a Christian, I wonder what God would think of a life spent damaging my own body, not treating it like His temple. Would He punish me? Would he be compassionate and forgiving? And what would Heaven be like? Would my fetish be gone, and I just have a perfect body? Or would I retain that desire, and still have the capacity to grow there, where I could in fact, grow forever?


fantasyfeeder.com/stories/view
4 years