European super league

LondonFA:
I see where many people are coming from if theres no firewall on capital deployment from the ESL ie the additional income will create significant inequality in the EPL.

I'm currently in Barcelona and it seems less of an issue with more of a calm division in opinion I guess that's because Barna is owned by the season ticket holders and not by a corporate body and the fact there are basically 2 big teams in the whole of Spain both of which are joining the ESL.

Surely the potential brand valuation gap and the fact the ESL is functioning like a cartel almost as it is a closed set with no oversight does make this a potential govt issue as there may be a competition question in the future.

Punkviper:
I agree it is like a cartel! I think part of the sporting outage also comes from what makes them the big 6. They aren't the best 6 teams in the country at the moment, and there are far more teams that have far more history in Europe. I'm a West Ham fan living in Leicester, those two teams should both qualify for the champions league this season, so for the likes of Arsenal and Spurs who are near the middle of the table to say they deserve the right to always be in this superleague, it takes the micky big time.

LondonFA:
The thing I'm trying to figure out here, is whether the FA, UEFA or even FIFA can exclude them and if so what effect will this have on those teams going forward. Fro example, there has been some sabre rattling about ESL membership disqualifying teams from UEFA club competitions. If so will the decrease in exposure and revenue offset the potential gain from joining the league. Further to this, will the players suffer as they could end up in a situation where their clubs aren't recognized for national squad selection.

Finally, does anyone reckon that the chairmen/owners of the teams involved in ESL have a greater strategy given the risks of alienation and hence becoming reliant solely on the ESL and essentially becoming a sort of separate sport.

Punkviper:
You've hit the nail on the head, a lot of the sanctions will be around not being able to compete in their own domestic leagues, and players being banned from the Euro's and World Cup.

I do think that this is the first attempted step to create a league/change the game of football to make it suitable for American and Asian audiences. If this goes ahead, those clubs will become franchises like NFL teams. No link to the fans, playing a game optimised to make money from foreign fans, playing games everywhere but their home ground.

LondonFA:
So Manchester City and Chelsea are not joining. dead in the water?

Punkviper:
Completely dead, but the fight isn't over, now we are in the post mortem we can't let this ever rear its ugly head again. Part of that needs to be reforming how football club ownership works.

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Looks like a longer running saga. I fly back to the UK tomorrow, but clearly Madrid arent against if and it really seems that neither are Barna fans as I guess it's the season ticket holders that profit from it.

I've never seen a game, but I do know a couple of people in the industry and I'd imagine theres a lot of division over the idea. I wonder if EPL teams were ownd by the fans if it would be seen by such a terrible thing by the UK founding teams' fans. I cant imagine that Manchester Liverpool Chelsea etc fans would mind ass much if it were equitable.
4 years

Website rebranding 20/04/2021

bashhh:
Hi guys, so yeah on mobile the website is unusable basically.
Scroll down menu overlaps on the main page, like all the div are on top of one another. As I’m typing this there’s a big red FANTASY FEEDER in the text box, hiding parts of what I’m typing.
I feel it could be an issue of responsivity? Although it doesn’t help for me to refresh the page anyways.


I haven't had that on my device, what are you using, if the viewport size is an issue the dev will have to look at their grid and figure it out.

I did have a similarish issue though where the box containing the core text on a profile seems to not flex to my screen on a note20 running chrome.

I'm guessing there's a lot of bedding in to be done especially on android
4 years

Healty and fat

LondonFA:
Re sumo:

The median is quite high but higher ranks including yokozuna do have higher mortality. This is common in elite sports in general as the competitive regime is punishing. My mother was on team GB in the 70s and has significant hip problems in her 50s and early 60s. She also has a number of friends from sports who have dropped prematurely from cancer. Competitive sport is punishing and to reach the top you must sacrifice your health.
Further to this though, although the sumo 1 gorging a day diet is better than 3x fast food plus al2x starbucks and a family bag of.M&Ms for avoiding diabetes, one should consider that from.sun up until the chankonabe is in front of them, sumo are training and training hard.

I visited kokonoe beya in 2006 and it was an intense regime.

Diet and moderate consistant exercise maintain a higher chance of being healthy as we age no matter what.

As an anecdote: I found my 69year old step father dead 4 weeks ago from a heart attack. He looked fit and healthy until the day he died, still could see his abs, but, it was all crunches and a low cal diet. Drove to the pub, and drank vodka and diet coke. Hardened his arteries and his heart was not strong.

My grandmother (only overweight member of the family) walked everywhere up and down the yorkshire hills and along the beach in sitges spain, for shopping, for leisure, but ate 4k calories a day for a lot of her adult life and weighed just shy of 18stone at 5'3. Her knees suffered but she lasted until she was in her mid 90s. Drank 2 glasses of red a day, a lot.of water, cooked every meal except the occasional restaurant, worked like an ox until she was 45 but maintained steady constant activity throughout her middle.age and autumn years.

Summary, if you want to gain or just be fat but be as healthy as you can, do it cautiously with a larger than needed medium sugar, medium salt diet and with moderate constant activity.

william keay:
That's a very interesting analysis you have there.

A lot of what you've said about the Sumo diet is what I'm trying to promote smiley

With the right diet and activity it really is possible to be fat and healthy and have the long life you want to have with the correct balance


Amen to that. Hard to square with the death feedists that are popping up everywhere but I guess the aims of the steady gaining lifestyle aren't in line with their wishes.
4 years

Healty and fat

Re sumo:

The median is quite high but higher ranks including yokozuna do have higher mortality. This is common in elite sports in general as the competitive regime is punishing. My mother was on team GB in the 70s and has significant hip problems in her 50s and early 60s. She also has a number of friends from sports who have dropped prematurely from cancer. Competitive sport is punishing and to reach the top you must sacrifice your health.
Further to this though, although the sumo 1 gorging a day diet is better than 3x fast food plus al2x starbucks and a family bag of.M&Ms for avoiding diabetes, one should consider that from.sun up until the chankonabe is in front of them, sumo are training and training hard.

I visited kokonoe beya in 2006 and it was an intense regime.

Diet and moderate consistant exercise maintain a higher chance of being healthy as we age no matter what.

As an anecdote: I found my 69year old step father dead 4 weeks ago from a heart attack. He looked fit and healthy until the day he died, still could see his abs, but, it was all crunches and a low cal diet. Drove to the pub, and drank vodka and diet coke. Hardened his arteries and his heart was not strong.

My grandmother (only overweight member of the family) walked everywhere up and down the yorkshire hills and along the beach in sitges spain, for shopping, for leisure, but ate 4k calories a day for a lot of her adult life and weighed just shy of 18stone at 5'3. Her knees suffered but she lasted until she was in her mid 90s. Drank 2 glasses of red a day, a lot.of water, cooked every meal except the occasional restaurant, worked like an ox until she was 45 but maintained steady constant activity throughout her middle.age and autumn years.

Summary, if you want to gain or just be fat but be as healthy as you can, do it cautiously with a larger than needed medium sugar, medium salt diet and with moderate constant activity.
4 years

Is my new girlfriend into feederism?

Arkm:
thanks a lot for the repliessmiley I allready worship her body, give her compliments abour her body to feel comfortable with it. I try to show her that i like the outfits that are thight and show some curves. We sleep together and i "play" with her chub..i am quite sure that she enjoys it when i grap and feel her hips or belly (most is on her hips).
So should i continue with that, suptle and with natural hints and wait what will happen or should i try to be more open about it and give more direct hints?
(We are together for 1 month now)


A month might be a bit early. If you want to start a conversation, try a neural in, like have a lizzo video on or be looking at some nice underwear for her as a gift but on a larger model. See if it starts the conversation.

Every relationship is different so one has to judge her signs as to when it is right.Have you cooked. for her yet? It's a good way of judging her relationship with food and her body if you present a large meal.you have prepared and not ordered for her at a restaurant.
4 years

Is my new girlfriend into feederism?

SKR0MPN0MP3R:
Let your hands say the words. Worship her belly and show her how much you like it with your touch. Sometimes words are not needed

This.

If she's confident enough to let you sleep with her, show how much you enjoy her. Compliment outfits that show her softness more than ones you don't like. Be covertly honest, subtle natural hints about how you like her so she relaxes in to her body but doesn't feel forced to think about it.
4 years

Where do you want to travel to and why?

Antarctica
Japan outside of Tokyo and Okinawa
Mongolia
Goa
Himalayas
Baghdad once it's recovered.
Would also love.to see more of Canada than just Whistler and Toronto.
Maybe sail the keys as I've never been south of miami.
4 years

European super league

Namaste:
Whats you're thoughts on it?

Personally I think it will ruin football.

LondonFA:
As this has been on the news all day I have to ask what is the big deal.

Its an odd thing to see so much of. I've tried to follow (I'm not a fan of the game and know very little about it despite knowing a few people in the industry).

I saw comments about the new league being a "closed?" league and hence not compatible with the current leagues. As far as I can tell it seems to be the highest viewed teams in european football have made a cooperative league in which they play each other as though europe was a single nation state and they are the most popular teams so should be able to bypass the usual country->international->euros hierarchy?

Why is it being debated in parliament?

Punkviper:
Part of the concern is the potential damage it could cause on the pyramid of English football, due to the movement of money out of the domestic game. Surprisingly large amounts of money in the domestic game move down from the Premier league to the lower leagues and keep them afloat. By doing this, the big 6 teams potentially will greatly reduce the amount that then moves down, one because of the moment in sponsorship and television rights, and two because it is likely that the big six will be thrown out of the Premier league.

Even if they aren't thrown out, they will receive £3bn just from joining this league, which will inflate their transfer budgets far beyond what the rest of the Premier league can manage, so if they could just pick and choose whichever players they want without a care. This could prevent the wonderful giant killing we see in the Premier league, something that makes it special.

Part of what hurts as a football fan is the idea that this group of teams believe that they deserve to be in this superleague where they can't be relegated, due to how much money they have. That goes against everything that football in England and Europe stands for, just because the owners can't understand the concept of relegation.

Those are just a few reasons why there is a lot of concern even creeping into. Governmental level. I'd recommend watching some of Gary Neville's comments on sky sports, he gives a decent account of the issue.

LondonFA:
I see where many people are coming from if theres no firewall on capital deployment from the ESL ie the additional income will create significant inequality in the EPL.

I'm currently in Barcelona and it seems less of an issue with more of a calm division in opinion I guess that's because Barna is owned by the season ticket holders and not by a corporate body and the fact there are basically 2 big teams in the whole of Spain both of which are joining the ESL.

Surely the potential brand valuation gap and the fact the ESL is functioning like a cartel almost as it is a closed set with no oversight does make this a potential govt issue as there may be a competition question in the future.

Punkviper:
I agree it is like a cartel! I think part of the sporting outage also comes from what makes them the big 6. They aren't the best 6 teams in the country at the moment, and there are far more teams that have far more history in Europe. I'm a West Ham fan living in Leicester, those two teams should both qualify for the champions league this season, so for the likes of Arsenal and Spurs who are near the middle of the table to say they deserve the right to always be in this superleague, it takes the micky big time.

LondonFA:
The thing I'm trying to figure out here, is whether the FA, UEFA or even FIFA can exclude them and if so what effect will this have on those teams going forward. Fro example, there has been some sabre rattling about ESL membership disqualifying teams from UEFA club competitions. If so will the decrease in exposure and revenue offset the potential gain from joining the league. Further to this, will the players suffer as they could end up in a situation where their clubs aren't recognized for national squad selection.

Finally, does anyone reckon that the chairmen/owners of the teams involved in ESL have a greater strategy given the risks of alienation and hence becoming reliant solely on the ESL and essentially becoming a sort of separate sport.

Punkviper:
You've hit the nail on the head, a lot of the sanctions will be around not being able to compete in their own domestic leagues, and players being banned from the Euro's and World Cup.

I do think that this is the first attempted step to create a league/change the game of football to make it suitable for American and Asian audiences. If this goes ahead, those clubs will become franchises like NFL teams. No link to the fans, playing a game optimised to make money from foreign fans, playing games everywhere but their home ground.


So Manchester City and Chelsea are not joining. dead in the water?
4 years

European super league

Namaste:
Whats you're thoughts on it?

Personally I think it will ruin football.

LondonFA:
As this has been on the news all day I have to ask what is the big deal.

Its an odd thing to see so much of. I've tried to follow (I'm not a fan of the game and know very little about it despite knowing a few people in the industry).

I saw comments about the new league being a "closed?" league and hence not compatible with the current leagues. As far as I can tell it seems to be the highest viewed teams in european football have made a cooperative league in which they play each other as though europe was a single nation state and they are the most popular teams so should be able to bypass the usual country->international->euros hierarchy?

Why is it being debated in parliament?

Punkviper:
Part of the concern is the potential damage it could cause on the pyramid of English football, due to the movement of money out of the domestic game. Surprisingly large amounts of money in the domestic game move down from the Premier league to the lower leagues and keep them afloat. By doing this, the big 6 teams potentially will greatly reduce the amount that then moves down, one because of the moment in sponsorship and television rights, and two because it is likely that the big six will be thrown out of the Premier league.

Even if they aren't thrown out, they will receive £3bn just from joining this league, which will inflate their transfer budgets far beyond what the rest of the Premier league can manage, so if they could just pick and choose whichever players they want without a care. This could prevent the wonderful giant killing we see in the Premier league, something that makes it special.

Part of what hurts as a football fan is the idea that this group of teams believe that they deserve to be in this superleague where they can't be relegated, due to how much money they have. That goes against everything that football in England and Europe stands for, just because the owners can't understand the concept of relegation.

Those are just a few reasons why there is a lot of concern even creeping into. Governmental level. I'd recommend watching some of Gary Neville's comments on sky sports, he gives a decent account of the issue.

LondonFA:
I see where many people are coming from if theres no firewall on capital deployment from the ESL ie the additional income will create significant inequality in the EPL.

I'm currently in Barcelona and it seems less of an issue with more of a calm division in opinion I guess that's because Barna is owned by the season ticket holders and not by a corporate body and the fact there are basically 2 big teams in the whole of Spain both of which are joining the ESL.

Surely the potential brand valuation gap and the fact the ESL is functioning like a cartel almost as it is a closed set with no oversight does make this a potential govt issue as there may be a competition question in the future.

Punkviper:
I agree it is like a cartel! I think part of the sporting outage also comes from what makes them the big 6. They aren't the best 6 teams in the country at the moment, and there are far more teams that have far more history in Europe. I'm a West Ham fan living in Leicester, those two teams should both qualify for the champions league this season, so for the likes of Arsenal and Spurs who are near the middle of the table to say they deserve the right to always be in this superleague, it takes the micky big time.


The thing I'm trying to figure out here, is whether the FA, UEFA or even FIFA can exclude them and if so what effect will this have on those teams going forward. Fro example, there has been some sabre rattling about ESL membership disqualifying teams from UEFA club competitions. If so will the decrease in exposure and revenue offset the potential gain from joining the league. Further to this, will the players suffer as they could end up in a situation where their clubs aren't recognized for national squad selection.

Finally, does anyone reckon that the chairmen/owners of the teams involved in ESL have a greater strategy given the risks of alienation and hence becoming reliant solely on the ESL and essentially becoming a sort of separate sport.
4 years

Website rebranding 20/04/2021

FF Team:
Hey, as you can all see we have updated the website branding! YAY...

Quick question? Anyone tied out the dark theme yet???

^_^


Yeah, CSS works fine on Firefox on ubuntu and on Chrome on Android.

Looking great so far
4 years