Love and lust
“Lust and Love”
By Zonker (aka GrowingLoveHandles)
***
A lust for thinness,
for boniness,
for what society deems as perfect,
that lust can sometimes turn love ugly,
can make it seem so, so -
so filled with self-hatred
and violence against one's own flesh.
——
But when one's lust is for softness, for roundness
for the beauty of bulging blubber,
for luscious love handles,
for pulchritudinous potbellies,
or cute soft rolls and folds of chub
growing in just the right places,
or the lust for thick creamy thighs or wide wobbly hips,
or delectable double chins,
——
Or a lust, a desire really, for adipose covered bodies,
reclining in satisfaction, or hungrily rising,
waddling toward tables heavy laden with tempting foods,
or staggering away from finished feast, the empty plates,
——
A big fat lust and addictive desire
for round billowy breasts and sensuously soft pliable flab,
the kind of flab you can feel, you can measure between thumb and forefinger,
——
A lust for life itself, for food and feasting,
for what makes us all human,
our hunger and our fleshiness,
our pleasures, our joys,
——
Lust for the waves of
hunger and satisfaction, for hedonistic gluttony,
for delicious finger-licking decadence leading to .....
mmmmmoooooore and more --
——
And more to love.
——
Then that love, that love
born of that gluttony and lustiness,
is wondrous to have and to behold!
***
I wrote this years ago. Nothing at all to do with the topic, but thought someone might enjoy it.
By Zonker (aka GrowingLoveHandles)
***
A lust for thinness,
for boniness,
for what society deems as perfect,
that lust can sometimes turn love ugly,
can make it seem so, so -
so filled with self-hatred
and violence against one's own flesh.
——
But when one's lust is for softness, for roundness
for the beauty of bulging blubber,
for luscious love handles,
for pulchritudinous potbellies,
or cute soft rolls and folds of chub
growing in just the right places,
or the lust for thick creamy thighs or wide wobbly hips,
or delectable double chins,
——
Or a lust, a desire really, for adipose covered bodies,
reclining in satisfaction, or hungrily rising,
waddling toward tables heavy laden with tempting foods,
or staggering away from finished feast, the empty plates,
——
A big fat lust and addictive desire
for round billowy breasts and sensuously soft pliable flab,
the kind of flab you can feel, you can measure between thumb and forefinger,
——
A lust for life itself, for food and feasting,
for what makes us all human,
our hunger and our fleshiness,
our pleasures, our joys,
——
Lust for the waves of
hunger and satisfaction, for hedonistic gluttony,
for delicious finger-licking decadence leading to .....
mmmmmoooooore and more --
——
And more to love.
——
Then that love, that love
born of that gluttony and lustiness,
is wondrous to have and to behold!
***
I wrote this years ago. Nothing at all to do with the topic, but thought someone might enjoy it.
NakaiLovesBlubber:
for all those experienced with relationships, how does one keep a healthy balance between love and lust? does lust usually come first? how long does it take for love to kick in?
for all those experienced with relationships, how does one keep a healthy balance between love and lust? does lust usually come first? how long does it take for love to kick in?
4 years
Fattened for a cannibal
Just bringing this to the top. I want to write more on this later.
And of course, the implied idea that Gretel is going to be fattened for eating next. Yet Gretel can’t seem to stop herself from bringing more and more food to Hansel despite this knowledge.
There’s plenty here in this story for any feederism enthusiast or vore fan to chew on.
hollyann:
I know it's such a dark fantasy, but I am so intrigued by the whole Hansel and Gretel narrative
johniav:
For many of us, that story embodies many of the elements that we enjoy in the world fantasy.
GrowingLoveHandles:
Agreed. There are so many enjoyable aspects:
— the initial temptation of the house and the inability to stop eating it.
— the being caught and shamed by the witch.
— the continued gluttony of h and g.
— the caging of h to be fattened and his inability to stop eating even as g warns him of what is happening.
— g’s unwilling participation in h’s fattening.
— the monitoring of his gain by checking his finger and the deception that he isn’t getting fat when he is.
— the witch’s own increasing hunger and her cannibalism,her desire to eat an entire fat boy.
Anything else?
jzero:
You've covered it quite well. To me, the hottest part is the witch's growing excitement over how delicious those fatties will be.
I know it's such a dark fantasy, but I am so intrigued by the whole Hansel and Gretel narrative
johniav:
For many of us, that story embodies many of the elements that we enjoy in the world fantasy.
GrowingLoveHandles:
Agreed. There are so many enjoyable aspects:
— the initial temptation of the house and the inability to stop eating it.
— the being caught and shamed by the witch.
— the continued gluttony of h and g.
— the caging of h to be fattened and his inability to stop eating even as g warns him of what is happening.
— g’s unwilling participation in h’s fattening.
— the monitoring of his gain by checking his finger and the deception that he isn’t getting fat when he is.
— the witch’s own increasing hunger and her cannibalism,her desire to eat an entire fat boy.
Anything else?
jzero:
You've covered it quite well. To me, the hottest part is the witch's growing excitement over how delicious those fatties will be.
And of course, the implied idea that Gretel is going to be fattened for eating next. Yet Gretel can’t seem to stop herself from bringing more and more food to Hansel despite this knowledge.
There’s plenty here in this story for any feederism enthusiast or vore fan to chew on.
4 years
Past the point of no return
There is something charming about someone trying to maintain fitness as their body and metabolism betray them.
MissPorker:
The point of no return is very real. Once you change your lifestyle and accept being a pig, it's hard to find and keep the motivation to go back. Also, once you gain, your body does what it can to maintain the weight.
Pummeluff:
That's sooo true. Once you really develop those habits they are there to stay. I can't imagine going back to my old eating habits. Something would missing. And it's pretty hard to get yourself to do sports again once you quit and get used to being lazy.
VsyaVlastSovetom:
Well maybe the trick is to never sto dping them. Im considering getting fat myself, but I am not really into the impracticality and loss of energy aspect of it. I want to be just as motovated on my life, and relatively retain my physical fitness. I would just want to add a large calorific surpluses so I can still gain. So ideally I'd try to keep my gym routine, and i think I'd add more cardio ( I do very little now, mostly weights) to try to make sure my performance doesn't decrease as I get fat, cardio wise my goal is to keep it not to improve it. The numbers on lifts should go up tho, as i never really fed my body enough to gain really considerably on those ( was afraid of getting fat lol)
So maybe the way to combat the point of no return, is to just make sure you are putting in every effort at teh gym to maintain your fitness from before as you gain. You'll need to gain quite a bit of muscle to be as fir cardio wise as before tho.
The point of no return is very real. Once you change your lifestyle and accept being a pig, it's hard to find and keep the motivation to go back. Also, once you gain, your body does what it can to maintain the weight.
Pummeluff:
That's sooo true. Once you really develop those habits they are there to stay. I can't imagine going back to my old eating habits. Something would missing. And it's pretty hard to get yourself to do sports again once you quit and get used to being lazy.
VsyaVlastSovetom:
Well maybe the trick is to never sto dping them. Im considering getting fat myself, but I am not really into the impracticality and loss of energy aspect of it. I want to be just as motovated on my life, and relatively retain my physical fitness. I would just want to add a large calorific surpluses so I can still gain. So ideally I'd try to keep my gym routine, and i think I'd add more cardio ( I do very little now, mostly weights) to try to make sure my performance doesn't decrease as I get fat, cardio wise my goal is to keep it not to improve it. The numbers on lifts should go up tho, as i never really fed my body enough to gain really considerably on those ( was afraid of getting fat lol)
So maybe the way to combat the point of no return, is to just make sure you are putting in every effort at teh gym to maintain your fitness from before as you gain. You'll need to gain quite a bit of muscle to be as fir cardio wise as before tho.
4 years
Fattened for a cannibal
hollyann:
I know it's such a dark fantasy, but I am so intrigued by the whole Hansel and Gretel narrative
johniav:
For many of us, that story embodies many of the elements that we enjoy in the world fantasy.
I know it's such a dark fantasy, but I am so intrigued by the whole Hansel and Gretel narrative
johniav:
For many of us, that story embodies many of the elements that we enjoy in the world fantasy.
Agreed. There are so many enjoyable aspects:
— the initial temptation of the house and the inability to stop eating it.
— the being caught and shamed by the witch.
— the continued gluttony of h and g.
— the caging of h to be fattened and his inability to stop eating even as g warns him of what is happening.
— g’s unwilling participation in h’s fattening.
— the monitoring of his gain by checking his finger and the deception that he isn’t getting fat when he is.
— the witch’s own increasing hunger and her cannibalism,her desire to eat an entire fat boy.
Anything else?
4 years
Dimensions weight room
The stories are not in the same place but they are all there. All the stories are still there. Some of the more erotic ones, you have to request access to, but it’s free to access them. Let me know if you have problems finding any of them.
5HT1A:
Wait, Dimensions is gone?!?! TT___TT
I've been randomly returning back there every year or so for more than a decade! Dimensions was an institution... What happened to it?!
High:
The remaining members will tell you one story, and the people who left will tell you a plethora of other, opposing stories.
My experience is
-people not into porn hated that there was a paysite section and that there were "disgusting" people who visited that board,
-there was an element of non-feedists who were always complaining about the pro-feedist stance of Dimensions (which was the way Conrad wanted it-pro feedist)
-they instituted major changes to what stories could stay and what could be written. Quite a few story artists left rather than feel censored. They went to either FF or Deviantart from what I can tell.
-there were a lot of SJWs that were constantly picking fights with others who don't share their world view. Those people left, too.
Now, all 5 people left can enjoy the website they control.
I haven't been there regularly since they got rid of all those awesome stories.
Wait, Dimensions is gone?!?! TT___TT
I've been randomly returning back there every year or so for more than a decade! Dimensions was an institution... What happened to it?!
High:
The remaining members will tell you one story, and the people who left will tell you a plethora of other, opposing stories.
My experience is
-people not into porn hated that there was a paysite section and that there were "disgusting" people who visited that board,
-there was an element of non-feedists who were always complaining about the pro-feedist stance of Dimensions (which was the way Conrad wanted it-pro feedist)
-they instituted major changes to what stories could stay and what could be written. Quite a few story artists left rather than feel censored. They went to either FF or Deviantart from what I can tell.
-there were a lot of SJWs that were constantly picking fights with others who don't share their world view. Those people left, too.
Now, all 5 people left can enjoy the website they control.
I haven't been there regularly since they got rid of all those awesome stories.
4 years
What made you decide to get fat?
I think it’s easy to underestimate the effect being in a new exciting relationship had on your waistline. Many gain weight as they relax and get cozy and comfortable with a new partner.
People used to call that gain “love pounds” or “honeymoon rolls” when the couple marries.
You gained some love fat, but that’s not the whole story. When in a new relationship, many succumb to the habits and enjoyments of their new partner. She was no gym-goer. You got to spend more time with her if you didn’t go to the gym.
And what did you do with that time? You did what she did: You enjoyed food. She was a foodie, and you became one. She was big and soft, so you grew soft as well. Her hedonistic ways became a part of you.
As did the belly you acquired.
It’s a love story in a way perhaps. She pleased you with introducing you to the joys of many delicious foods. You pleased her by finding pleasure in her interests, and by spending more time with her as your gym time decreased.
And your waistline increased.
People used to call that gain “love pounds” or “honeymoon rolls” when the couple marries.
You gained some love fat, but that’s not the whole story. When in a new relationship, many succumb to the habits and enjoyments of their new partner. She was no gym-goer. You got to spend more time with her if you didn’t go to the gym.
And what did you do with that time? You did what she did: You enjoyed food. She was a foodie, and you became one. She was big and soft, so you grew soft as well. Her hedonistic ways became a part of you.
As did the belly you acquired.
It’s a love story in a way perhaps. She pleased you with introducing you to the joys of many delicious foods. You pleased her by finding pleasure in her interests, and by spending more time with her as your gym time decreased.
And your waistline increased.
GrowingLoveHandles:
To further my point above, it seems this happy accidental weight gain initially was not so much decided as just seemed to occur — the result of a new relationship, being around such a lovely woman, learning to enjoy eating and foods in new ways, adopting her hedonistic outlook, and thinking you could easily lose those first pounds.
Not as much a decision as a delicious kind of carelessness.
canuck:
yes, i think you are correctly stating it. certainly it was not a conscious decision!
when you put it like that, and i think of my change in thinking from when i was fit to now - the "value" i placed on being in shape motivated me in my exercise. i mean, i went to the gym 3-4 times a week continuously for 20 years! at some point it just becomes a habit, and you do it on automatic pilot.
but when i took that time away and grew out of shape, the "value" i placed on that enjoyment of that new hedonistic lifestyle, was much greater than the effort it would take to get back in shape.
none of it was conscious, but i think i realized i had missed out on some of those pleasures... now they've become the habit, i guess!
To further my point above, it seems this happy accidental weight gain initially was not so much decided as just seemed to occur — the result of a new relationship, being around such a lovely woman, learning to enjoy eating and foods in new ways, adopting her hedonistic outlook, and thinking you could easily lose those first pounds.
Not as much a decision as a delicious kind of carelessness.
canuck:
yes, i think you are correctly stating it. certainly it was not a conscious decision!
when you put it like that, and i think of my change in thinking from when i was fit to now - the "value" i placed on being in shape motivated me in my exercise. i mean, i went to the gym 3-4 times a week continuously for 20 years! at some point it just becomes a habit, and you do it on automatic pilot.
but when i took that time away and grew out of shape, the "value" i placed on that enjoyment of that new hedonistic lifestyle, was much greater than the effort it would take to get back in shape.
none of it was conscious, but i think i realized i had missed out on some of those pleasures... now they've become the habit, i guess!
4 years
What made you decide to get fat?
To further my point above, it seems this happy accidental weight gain initially was not so much decided as just seemed to occur — the result of a new relationship, being around such a lovely woman, learning to enjoy eating and foods in new ways, adopting her hedonistic outlook, and thinking you could easily lose those first pounds.
Not as much a decision as a delicious kind of carelessness.
Not as much a decision as a delicious kind of carelessness.
4 years
What made you decide to get fat?
I always enjoy reading your story. Bring on the long posts. You are good at expressing yourself.
It sounds to me like the initial phase was not so much a decision as a kind of stumbling enjoyable accident. Your only real decision was to accept being fat and then getting fatter.
Does that seem right?
It sounds to me like the initial phase was not so much a decision as a kind of stumbling enjoyable accident. Your only real decision was to accept being fat and then getting fatter.
Does that seem right?
canuck:
this question really made me think : was it a decision? i guess it was, in a way.
i had been fit, thin and active all my life. i went to the gym regularly and lifted weights. but i was an fa and a feeder - i was attracted to fat people and the idea of them growing even bigger was really my turn on. so i dated bbw and bhm, and often i was their feeder. i was in this mode for a long time - like, from my late teens until i was about 40!
then i started dating and then living with a ssbbw. she was a nurse and was completely uninterested in being the whole feedism scene - that was fine with me. she was gorgeous, fun, intelligent, and we had a great time together. she was more a "foodie" i think, and her love of good food started to rub off on me. i started to find a new enjoyment in food through her. spending more and more time with her meant it was getting tougher for me to dedicate time to the gym. eventually i decided i would take a break from the gym for a few months, just see what would happen.
not only did i stop working out, i started to indulge more with my gf. we both put on weight. after maybe 25 lbs i started to get a little worried about how big i was getting, but she helped me put those concerns aside, we were still both really enjoying our life together which involved quite a bit of eating and drinking and making merry.
at some point i thought, well, i've let myself go this far - let's see what 200 lbs is like! then i can start getting back in shape.
200 lbs turned into 220, and i realized that the lifestyle i had become used to was very seductive. my gf had also gained some weight over that time, and was growing concerned it might impact her mobility to the point it effected her job. so we knew something needed to be done. i decided to go back to the gym, and she cut a bunch of things out of her diet. i was really impressed with her level of discipline!
i was also surprised by how *hard* it was to go back to the gym. being fat and out of shape, not having worked out at all for many months... wow, was that a rude awakening! i thought i would jump on the treadmill for 30 minutes, like i used to. i lasted about 5 minutes and i felt like i was going to die, lol! i was shocked and embarrassed by how little weight i could lift, and how far i had fallen in terms of my fitness. seeing myself in the mirrors all around the gym shocked me over and over again - who was that flabby guy with the gut hanging over his too-tight exercise pants? oh, it was me!
being so disillusioned at the gym created a bit of a cycle... i would stop going, get fatter, try to go again, and become too discouraged to continue.
so while my gf was losing some weight, mine went up a little. eventually just the thought of being in the gym was too humiliating, i made a conscious decision to stop trying. and i guess this was the point at which i actually "decided" (or admitted) i was now a fat person.
i have often thought, looking back on my life, what motivated me to be fit and to work out for so long? and how did i change so much in such a short period of time, quite far into my adulthood? i think part of staying fit was just my sense of my own identity. getting over that was the hardest part of getting fat (getting past the "this isn't me" mindset). but also, as a fit guy seeking out romantic and kinky relationships with fat people, i think being in good shape was one of the things that i knew made potential partners attracted to me. not sure if i knew that at the time, but in hindsight, having joined a dating site as a fat guy, i know that the "marketplace" has shrunk substantially for me.
i guess in another way, my decision to be fat (or get fatter) was really around my lifestyle choice, and what i valued in how i spent my time... having discovered a great joy of food (which included a newfound interest in cooking for myself, family and friends), and being a craft beer aficionado, the value of these activities and the joy they bring me has increased substantially. just 4 or 5 years ago i would never have looked forward with any enthusiasm to getting take-out from a particular restaurant. now, i have a list of almost 20 places i can't wait to try. my mouth is watering thinking about what i am going to be having for lunch - food, for the first time, has become a very central part of my life, my day, my week. it isn't about "stuffing" (although sometimes it is
), it is about taste, flavour, texture, trying something new...
sorry, didn't want to make this an essay, lol! but thinking about it made me kind of reflect over the last 3-4 years.
this question really made me think : was it a decision? i guess it was, in a way.
i had been fit, thin and active all my life. i went to the gym regularly and lifted weights. but i was an fa and a feeder - i was attracted to fat people and the idea of them growing even bigger was really my turn on. so i dated bbw and bhm, and often i was their feeder. i was in this mode for a long time - like, from my late teens until i was about 40!
then i started dating and then living with a ssbbw. she was a nurse and was completely uninterested in being the whole feedism scene - that was fine with me. she was gorgeous, fun, intelligent, and we had a great time together. she was more a "foodie" i think, and her love of good food started to rub off on me. i started to find a new enjoyment in food through her. spending more and more time with her meant it was getting tougher for me to dedicate time to the gym. eventually i decided i would take a break from the gym for a few months, just see what would happen.
not only did i stop working out, i started to indulge more with my gf. we both put on weight. after maybe 25 lbs i started to get a little worried about how big i was getting, but she helped me put those concerns aside, we were still both really enjoying our life together which involved quite a bit of eating and drinking and making merry.
at some point i thought, well, i've let myself go this far - let's see what 200 lbs is like! then i can start getting back in shape.200 lbs turned into 220, and i realized that the lifestyle i had become used to was very seductive. my gf had also gained some weight over that time, and was growing concerned it might impact her mobility to the point it effected her job. so we knew something needed to be done. i decided to go back to the gym, and she cut a bunch of things out of her diet. i was really impressed with her level of discipline!
i was also surprised by how *hard* it was to go back to the gym. being fat and out of shape, not having worked out at all for many months... wow, was that a rude awakening! i thought i would jump on the treadmill for 30 minutes, like i used to. i lasted about 5 minutes and i felt like i was going to die, lol! i was shocked and embarrassed by how little weight i could lift, and how far i had fallen in terms of my fitness. seeing myself in the mirrors all around the gym shocked me over and over again - who was that flabby guy with the gut hanging over his too-tight exercise pants? oh, it was me!
being so disillusioned at the gym created a bit of a cycle... i would stop going, get fatter, try to go again, and become too discouraged to continue.
so while my gf was losing some weight, mine went up a little. eventually just the thought of being in the gym was too humiliating, i made a conscious decision to stop trying. and i guess this was the point at which i actually "decided" (or admitted) i was now a fat person.
i have often thought, looking back on my life, what motivated me to be fit and to work out for so long? and how did i change so much in such a short period of time, quite far into my adulthood? i think part of staying fit was just my sense of my own identity. getting over that was the hardest part of getting fat (getting past the "this isn't me" mindset). but also, as a fit guy seeking out romantic and kinky relationships with fat people, i think being in good shape was one of the things that i knew made potential partners attracted to me. not sure if i knew that at the time, but in hindsight, having joined a dating site as a fat guy, i know that the "marketplace" has shrunk substantially for me.
i guess in another way, my decision to be fat (or get fatter) was really around my lifestyle choice, and what i valued in how i spent my time... having discovered a great joy of food (which included a newfound interest in cooking for myself, family and friends), and being a craft beer aficionado, the value of these activities and the joy they bring me has increased substantially. just 4 or 5 years ago i would never have looked forward with any enthusiasm to getting take-out from a particular restaurant. now, i have a list of almost 20 places i can't wait to try. my mouth is watering thinking about what i am going to be having for lunch - food, for the first time, has become a very central part of my life, my day, my week. it isn't about "stuffing" (although sometimes it is
), it is about taste, flavour, texture, trying something new...sorry, didn't want to make this an essay, lol! but thinking about it made me kind of reflect over the last 3-4 years.
4 years
Skinny female feeders
John, I love your writing. Your phrases are eloquent. And on this topic, I think you are right. It will be interesting to see what happens when the pandemic ends.
I think the pandemic has opened a Pandora’s box of dark delights.
I think the pandemic has opened a Pandora’s box of dark delights.
John Smith:
Hm. Skinny female feeders below age 30 are always fun to watch... a majority of them does always manage up to switch from their current role to the receving end of feederism. 😏
pluviophile:
I've also seen this happening a little more often, especially over the last year. I'm still in the minority of being a thin feeder, however.
John Smith:
This global pandemic outbreak has been the theater of a quarantine-triggered population boom within the feedism community. Many feeders with little to no traditional partnering option resorted into lashing out their baser impulses onto their own bodies, while various female potentials, experimentees and regulars alike with little to no indication about some propensity to this fetish has rapidly succumbed to its tantalizing intricacies.
Hm. Skinny female feeders below age 30 are always fun to watch... a majority of them does always manage up to switch from their current role to the receving end of feederism. 😏
pluviophile:
I've also seen this happening a little more often, especially over the last year. I'm still in the minority of being a thin feeder, however.
John Smith:
This global pandemic outbreak has been the theater of a quarantine-triggered population boom within the feedism community. Many feeders with little to no traditional partnering option resorted into lashing out their baser impulses onto their own bodies, while various female potentials, experimentees and regulars alike with little to no indication about some propensity to this fetish has rapidly succumbed to its tantalizing intricacies.
4 years
Switch
I think being a switch is a deeper experience in feederism. It is complex and complicated. The rewards are many, though, because you not only enjoy your current role but you feel deeply the role of your partner. Empathy for and knowledge of their desires.
Luluand:
I love being both dominant and submissive with different partners. Anyone else???
I love being both dominant and submissive with different partners. Anyone else???
4 years